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joeysteele 09-02-2016 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8506260)
But she suddenly became "angry" with him when she decided to cheat on him on tv before that she was ready to marry him and was "angry" at people who reminded her she already had a b/f :laugh:

She is a massive contradiction all the time,this interview today was just likely one in sadly a possible long line of interviews with her to let her feed on the new story and account she now gives as to her relationship with Sam.

I simply would not give her air time on TV.

Stormy 09-02-2016 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8506260)
But she suddenly became "angry" with him when she decided to cheat on him on tv before that she was ready to marry him and was "angry" at people who reminded her she already had a b/f :laugh:

We don't know her and Sam's personal relationship. We just know Stephanie's viewpoint of it. Then we saw how juvenile and immature Stephanie is which puts that viewpoint in doubt. Sam never said a word, although his actions (taking advantage of the situation with PA's) spoke very loudly. He doesn't really seem to be bothered by the breakup one bit.

We don't know if Sam treated her like a princess or like a piece of dirt. Did he have multiple affairs or no? We only ever saw is one side. We don't truly know both sides so, a lot of us fill in the blanks with and make assumptions based on our bias views.

Love Stephanie = Sam deserved it, he treated her like dirt and slept around.
Hate Stephanie = Poor Sam, she mugged him on on live TV, he must be gutted.

I'm suggesting that the reality is that they are both to blame and to just leave it at that. No need to pick sides, they were dating and now they're not. This is not a divorce, there are no children to worry about.

Marsh. 09-02-2016 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Stormy (Post 8506248)
"Truth be damned, is it?? :joker: :joker:

( Sorry Marsh, I couldn't help it, but you just walked into that one. :) )

I think you misunderstand what I'm saying.

I'm saying regardless of what the truth is and people's opinion of Steph and these relationships, A SEPARATE POINT is that I don't have respect for her whatever the situation is because of how she's displayed the whole thing on TV. I can't judge Sam for that because I've never seen him on TV.

Stormy 09-02-2016 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8506382)
I think you misunderstand what I'm saying.

I'm saying regardless of what the truth is and people's opinion of Steph and these relationships, A SEPARATE POINT is that I don't have respect for her whatever the situation is because of how she's displayed the whole thing on TV. I can't judge Sam for that because I've never seen him on TV.

That's a good point. I used to say that in the beginning too. I did not respect her for airing it all on TV, however, after hearing some of the rumours about Sam, I didn't reel so bad about it anymore. If he was an A-hole and treated her like dirt...then he deserved worse, tbh.

Since we've only ever seen one side and don't know the truth, I'm not content to put all the blame on Steph or all on Sam. The reality is that two media wh0res were dating and now they broke up. Big deal. Neither deserve defending.

Marsh. 09-02-2016 10:35 PM

Ah, well my lack of respect isn't about whether Sam is deserving of that treatment or not. Even if he was deserving I don't like media *****s as you say. :laugh: There's a limit to what I can stomach and personal stuff like that I find so tasteless.

Maru 10-02-2016 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Stormy (Post 8506374)
We don't know her and Sam's personal relationship. We just know Stephanie's viewpoint of it. Then we saw how juvenile and immature Stephanie is which puts that viewpoint in doubt. Sam never said a word, although his actions (taking advantage of the situation with PA's) spoke very loudly. He doesn't really seem to be bothered by the breakup one bit.

We don't know if Sam treated her like a princess or like a piece of dirt. Did he have multiple affairs or no? We only ever saw is one side. We don't truly know both sides so, a lot of us fill in the blanks with and make assumptions based on our bias views.

Love Stephanie = Sam deserved it, he treated her like dirt and slept around.
Hate Stephanie = Poor Sam, she mugged him on on live TV, he must be gutted.

I'm suggesting that the reality is that they are both to blame and to just leave it at that. No need to pick sides, they were dating and now they're not. This is not a divorce, there are no children to worry about.

Love this post. Stephanie clearly has some emotional issues. She jumps from one intense relationship to another and yet still spends a lot of time speaking in absolutes. Sam can't be the only one who kept her unhappy in their previous relationship. She may have no business being in a relationship given her history, but I understand wanting to pursue a potentially strong connection with someone... just don't know if a TV show is the healthiest way in which to start a new chapter in life.

GiRTh 10-02-2016 01:24 AM

She's the new Kerry Catona.

hot2go 10-02-2016 10:08 AM

Interesting reading so many comments ... esp from both extreme sides ... She certainly creates division and that's always a more colourful option IMO
She seems to be perceived as a smiling assassin which is interesting because I think she's too honest to pull that off and is instead playing everything out in front of our eyes with all her cards on the table... Her train of thought is actually a pile up, she struggles to know what is the right thing to do but each decision she makes is an honest one in that moment and is put on display for all to see... i don't see a hidden agenda but I think she would be better off it she actually had one.

People who think Sam is the victim have every reason to think so but anyone who saw the original airing of his appearance on First Dates will not only realise how lucky Steph was that he never took her to dinner, but will also realise what a self serving arrogant person he is.... In fact he was so awful he received threats on line over his poor treatment of the girl he was with.... And when ch 5 repeated the series, that included him, they purposely edited it to try and make him look better... But even with careful editing he still came across as a total nob head.

joeysteele 10-02-2016 10:16 AM

I bet she was 100% glad to have Sam when she got sacked from Hollyoaks.
Clearly he stuck beside her then and they were not just dating, they lived together apparently.

So to in any way do what she did as to him on a National TV series, is what most are furious with and I doubt anyone would want, or even want to think a Partner they had would ever go on TV in a daily TV reality show and actually do that either to them publicly.

That was when I went off her, I wanted to like her in CBB but I hate the way she did this,had she held back until after the series well and good but she was a disgrace and I said elsewhere,had I done what she did as to this and Sam,I'd have been massively ashamed of myself,something she clearly is not,even now.

Niamh. 10-02-2016 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by hot2go (Post 8506868)
Interesting reading so many comments ... esp from both extreme sides ... She certainly creates division and that's always a more colourful option IMO
She seems to be perceived as a smiling assassin which is interesting because I think she's too honest to pull that off and is instead playing everything out in front of our eyes with all her cards on the table... Her train of thought is actually a pile up, she struggles to know what is the right thing to do but each decision she makes is an honest one in that moment and is put on display for all to see... i don't see a hidden agenda but I think she would be better off it she actually had one.

People who think Sam is the victim have every reason to think so but anyone who saw the original airing of his appearance on First Dates will not only realise how lucky Steph was that he never took her to dinner, but will also realise what a self serving arrogant person he is.... In fact he was so awful he received threats on line over his poor treatment of the girl he was with.... And when ch 5 repeated the series, that included him, they purposely edited it to try and make him look better... But even with careful editing he still came across as a total nob head.

Honestly, I think you're giving her too much credit there lol as someone who isn't a fan of hers, I just think she's an immature idiot who needs to grow up :shrug:

hot2go 10-02-2016 10:27 AM

Joey I get why people don't like her.... And why others do like her .. It's all a matter of deciding the reason behind a persons behaviour and weather or not that reason is acceptable to yourself... But let's stop seeing Sam as a victim, because if anyone finds Stephs behaviour in public an issue then they need to see his rendition a year earlier on First Dates...he was the trail blazer in poor behaviour and if you believe that Steph is wrong than she had a good teacher. ... He is no broken hearted, mistreated victim ... He is a vain ill mannered and arrogant little climber who will be delighted with the media attention Steph has hurled his way.

hot2go 10-02-2016 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8506879)
Honestly, I think you're giving her too much credit there lol as someone who isn't a fan of hers, I just think she's an immature idiot who needs to grow up :shrug:

I don't think she's an idiot, she chose Jeremy over Sam, she befriended Tiffany over Gemma, she was the only one to take something positive from Gillian McKeith and she beat all the other girls to second place in the final...I think she makes some clever decisions tbh...but I do agree that she's immature....she's also young, as were a lot of the others in there who equally behaved immaturely....Megan, Scotty....in fact the most immature of all were Gemma and Tiffany and they were 34 years old. I believe that 12 years from now when Steph is their age she will be a much more rounded person then they are right now.

Niamh. 10-02-2016 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by hot2go (Post 8506931)
I don't think she's an idiot, she chose Jeremy over Sam, she befriended Tiffany over Gemma, she was the only one to take something positive from Gillian McKeith and she beat all the other girls to second place in the final...I think she makes some clever decisions tbh...but I do agree that she's immature....she's also young, as were a lot of the others in there who equally behaved immaturely....Megan, Scotty....in fact the most immature of all were Gemma and Tiffany and they were 34 years old. I believe that 12 years from now when Steph is their age she will be a much more rounded person then they are right now.

Well obviously you don't as you like her, I was speaking as someone who isn't a fan of hers in response to what you assumed people who weren't fans of hers thought about her :shrug:

Niamh. 10-02-2016 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Stormy (Post 8506374)
We don't know her and Sam's personal relationship. We just know Stephanie's viewpoint of it. Then we saw how juvenile and immature Stephanie is which puts that viewpoint in doubt. Sam never said a word, although his actions (taking advantage of the situation with PA's) spoke very loudly. He doesn't really seem to be bothered by the breakup one bit.

We don't know if Sam treated her like a princess or like a piece of dirt. Did he have multiple affairs or no? We only ever saw is one side. We don't truly know both sides so, a lot of us fill in the blanks with and make assumptions based on our bias views.

Love Stephanie = Sam deserved it, he treated her like dirt and slept around.
Hate Stephanie = Poor Sam, she mugged him on on live TV, he must be gutted.

I'm suggesting that the reality is that they are both to blame and to just leave it at that. No need to pick sides, they were dating and now they're not. This is not a divorce, there are no children to worry about.

I have no opinion on Sam really, he probably is a bit of a dick but what I will say is he could have milked it more by speaking out about it when she was in the house but he didn't which is much more dignified imo

You are suggesting that they are both to blame.........for her cheating on him on national TV and then dumping him for Jeremy on national TV? Nope, I'm sorry but he's not, that blames lies solely on her shoulders. Was he a s**t b/f? I don't know. Did he cheat on her before? maybe and if he did then he is to blame for that and I'm sure he accepted responsibility for that and didn't try to blame Stef..........

Stormy 10-02-2016 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8507211)
I have no opinion on Sam really, he probably is a bit of a dick but what I will say is he could have milked it more by speaking out about it when she was in the house but he didn't which is much more dignified imo

You are suggesting that they are both to blame.........for her cheating on him on national TV and then dumping him for Jeremy on national TV? Nope, I'm sorry but he's not, that blames lies solely on her shoulders. Was he a s**t b/f? I don't know. Did he cheat on her before? maybe and if he did then he is to blame for that and I'm sure he accepted responsibility for that and didn't try to blame Stef..........

You prove my point Niamh. You absolutely seem to abhor her and therefore will give her no quarter....not one.

That is the opposite of those that seem to love her and therefore will give her all the excuses and justifications for doing what she did.

I am suggesting a middle ground...This was a case of bad judgement but not the crime of the century, especially when the victim does not appear to be faultless (in the relationship) and the victim is, also, happily cashing in on the fact that she did it on national TV.

Niamh. 10-02-2016 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Stormy (Post 8507239)
You prove my point Niamh. You absolutely seem to abhor her and therefore will give her no quarter....not one.

That is the opposite of those that seem to love her and therefore will give her all the excuses and justifications for doing what she did.

I am suggesting a middle ground...This was a case of bad judgement but not the crime of the century, especially when the victim does not appear to be faultless (in the relationship) and the victim is, also, happily cashing in on the fact that she did it on national TV.

Well no I haven't proven your point at all. I'm talking about her action of cheating on him with Jeremy, that is her fault no matter what way you look at it. If those rumours about him are true then he is to blame solely for when he cheated on her.......

Mac1978 11-02-2016 12:49 AM

I'm still at a loss to explain her. A decent streak very deep down, but hidden underneath a layer of unpleasant immaturity perhaps?

Her story about the OD was heart breaking and seemed very genuine. She is a good actress, but that really seemed to come from the heart. Somebody as sensitive to the thoughts of others can't be a 'bad' person. They wouldn't have it in them. Most of us do have that mean streak, it's how we survive, but some don't and they suffer for it. Nobody should ever feel as she described, and I hope she (ON HER OWN!!!) has learned enough about life's highs and to make sure she never goes back there.

Her immaturity still shines through though. Why go on about the Sam situation. Why not just have a bit of dignity and class, wish him well, and say no more? You can think what you like, you don't have to blurt it all out.


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