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Niamh. 17-05-2016 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8653062)
im always forgiving people, life is too short
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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8653106)
I believe in an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth


Its essentially why my carboot business failed
:suspect:

Crimson Dynamo 17-05-2016 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8653109)
:suspect:
its all about proving your forgiveness you see


:hee:

Redway 17-05-2016 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8653018)
Depends on the situation I guess
Summed up nicely in four words.

Niamh. 17-05-2016 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8653112)
its all about proving your forgiveness you see


:hee:
I'll forgive you once I've poked your eye out and proved you're sorry :fist:

Mokka 17-05-2016 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8653118)
I'll forgive you once I've poked your eye out and proved you're sorry :fist:
:joker:

Ammi 17-05-2016 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 8653102)
You could probably have a reasonable stab in the dark at it though, no? You might find maybe you in fact are capable of hate. I believe outside some serious transcendental guruism or existentialist martydom we practically all are. The potential for it seems hardwired into our psyches far too deeply. Maybe most of us can be lucky enough not to seriously tap into it too much but I feel to deny the idea that I am capable of hate is to circumnavigate my own humanity.

Angels are quite dull and certainly imaginary. As for forgiveness I guess I discern on my own terms like with everything. I'll suffer friends for a long time but won't turn the cheek for a fool.
..I agree with you...I think that if we're capable of love, then we're also capable of hate..(and as a parent, I know the love that I'm capable of feeling..)... and if we find that we can forgive (in certain situations..)..then we would also find situations that we couldn't find forgiveness in../not ever..I don't believe you can have one without the other, it's just that we may never have (yet) experienced those situations in our lives....


..hey by the way, it's lovely to see you../I hope you're well and good..:love:..

Cherie 17-05-2016 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8653077)
I think cynicism is something that comes with age, the more people fick you off or fick you over the harder it is to forgive but the best thing to do is have a sliding scale and don't sweat the small stuff haha!
I'd go with that, I can hold a grudge forever if it's warranted :hee:

Daniel-X 17-05-2016 04:10 PM
I'm extremely forgiving and often the first to apologise as I dislike holding grudges. My mum tells me I'm foolish sometimes for forgiving some people or being the first to apologise when I'm not in the wrong, but I don't know I just find it very hard to hold a grudge against someone. Being forgiving is meant to be one of the key Gemini traits and I'd say i'm pretty much the stereotypical Gemini down to a tea.

DemolitionRed 17-05-2016 04:48 PM
Like Niamph, it depends on what's in front of me. I don't have time to be overly sensitive or offended by people and like my old man says, "if you allow someone to upset you its because you set your own expectations of that person too high".

Saying that, I think it takes the bigger person to stand up and apologize and I've never yet found myself in a situation where I haven't accepted an apology gracefully from someone, but depending on what its about, regardless of an apology, I may be more wary around them. That doesn't mean I haven't forgiven them, it just means I'm more savvy re-going forward with that person.

joeysteele 17-05-2016 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mokka (Post 8653104)
I disagree with the last statement.
I can forgive someone, not hold a grudge or hate or malice towards them... And truly want the best for them...but not want to go forward in any type of personal relationship with them.
A case may be where a couple separate or divorce in an amicable fashion
Absolutely,I respect that and your last statement is a strong point and very valid.

I said it was just my own way of assessing forgiveness and indeed true contrition from any offending me too.

I just feel if I was close to someone who really offended me,and they really apologised and I believed they meant the apology too, to the point where I said I had forgiven them.
Just again, and only speaking from my own feeling on forgiveness,If I then treat them differently from how we were before,I myself would feel I had not really forgiven them.

Beso 17-05-2016 08:33 PM
If someone hurt me or any of my friends then they would have to forgive me for punching them before i forgave them.

Dollface 17-05-2016 08:40 PM
I think forgiveness overall is a good thing, i.e not holding a grudge. But I have a friend that has forgiven her boyfriend for LOADS of things, and to me that is foolishness. I believe in giving people second chances but not six or seven chances.

bots 17-05-2016 09:37 PM
Everyone has the capacity to forgive anything. Its choosing to forget it that's foolish

Mokka 17-05-2016 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 8653912)
Everyone has the capacity to forgive anything. Its choosing to forget it that's foolish
This I agree with wholeheartedly

jennyjuniper 18-05-2016 04:00 AM
Forgive your enemies, but never forget the bastards name!! (an old Scottish saying)
I wish I could be more forgiving. I think it only becomes foolishness when you constantly have to forgive a person for the same thing.


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