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caprimint 10-06-2016 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8705584)
you know you can do both

judge him as a housemate and judge his extensive social media profile prior


Its not against the law

I didn't say it was, I personally just don't deem it relevant when we're watching a show like this. If you dug up everyone's backgrounds you'd probably find a whole lot more information, but then you'd be against supporting anybody. Somebody could be absolutely lovely on social media, it doesn't mean they're a nice person but in the house they could be a riot.

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8705760)
He's in Big Brother. This is an Internet forum about Big Brother. He put himself up for discussion while being aware of the bigoted posts he'd made in the past so forgive us all if we're here doing what this place is designed for.

Of course it's going to happen. It's just a shame that it does before they're given a real chance to prove their worth.

hot2go 10-06-2016 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8705469)
This is a pic of his dad:

https://images.chesscomfiles.com/upl...phpgfKRST.jpeg

Andrew is part black.

Oh that is hilarious .....I don't know what's true about the guy but I do know pics from sum Twitter page aren't concrete evidence ....if it turns out those tweets are fake then a lot of people on here should feel very guilty indeed

hot2go 10-06-2016 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 8705540)
You are making the mistake of thinking anybody other than a couple of dozen BB addicted forum posting obsessives give a dogs dick about it or him.
Really who cares about some chode on a little watched backwater reality show.

Well you clearly do cause you're hear and your talking about it :joker::joker::joker::joker:

Northern Monkey 10-06-2016 02:38 PM

Well according to a small minority of people 'black people can't be racist'(unless it suits their agenda of course).Anyway after watching his vid on Muslim terrorists he does'nt seem racist towards them.Maybe he is racist towards black people or maybe he has changed since 2012 or maybe he did'nt mean his tweets and it was just his humour or maybe......
Loads of maybes but nobody actually knows.

hot2go 10-06-2016 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 8705910)
Well according to a small minority of people 'black people can't be racist'(unless it suits their agenda of course).Anyway after watching his vid on Muslim terrorists he does'nt seem racist towards them.Maybe he is racist towards black people or maybe he has changed since 2012 or maybe he did'nt mean his tweets and it was just his humour or maybe......
Loads of maybes but nobody actually knows.

:clap1::clap1:

hot2go 10-06-2016 02:45 PM

Personally I think he's not like anyone else in there and will be a massive challenge to all of them and I wanna watch that....he ain't gonna be riding round on some bed or taking permanent residence in front of the bedroom mirrors....he's gonna blow the f-ckin roof off ....you want nice guys then go watch the Care Bears

Tom4784 10-06-2016 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8705565)
But it shows that black people can use racist language without being racist.

Do you really believe that Andrew is racist, given that his dad is clearly black and he is part black?


Again, you're being dense and you know it.

You know perfectly well that the N-Word's origin and you know full well that there's a variant of it that has been reclaimed by some black people to mean something less offensive to them.

Being part black doesn't excuse him from being racist and it's fair to think that he is a racist given how he has used racial slurs towards other people and is generally bigoted.

Tom4784 10-06-2016 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 8705910)
Well according to a small minority of people 'black people can't be racist'(unless it suits their agenda of course).Anyway after watching his vid on Muslim terrorists he does'nt seem racist towards them.Maybe he is racist towards black people or maybe he has changed since 2012 or maybe he did'nt mean his tweets and it was just his humour or maybe......
Loads of maybes but nobody actually knows.

That's bull**** and you know it. No one has ever said that black people can't be racist, it's just a misquote used by closet racists in an attempt to justify their ****ty views.

ThriceShy 10-06-2016 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8705624)
where did you get that picture?

I dressed entirely in black and cat burgled his house in the middle of the night and stole that picture from a drawer in his study. Then scanned it in to my PC.

Or perhaps I just googled his famous chess player dad.

ThriceShy 10-06-2016 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8705919)
Again, you're being dense and you know it.

You know perfectly well that the N-Word's origin and you know full well that there's a variant of it that has been reclaimed by some black people to mean something less offensive to them.

Being part black doesn't excuse him from being racist and it's fair to think that he is a racist given how he has used racial slurs towards other people and is generally bigoted.

Please don't make me post the definition of bigot again.

He has said nothing bigoted. The bigots are the people who don't want him to express his opinion.

You can't be racist toward your own race. Simple as that. He is just a bit of a WUM on twitter.

Amy Jade 10-06-2016 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8705995)
He has said nothing bigoted. The bigots are the people who don't want him to express his opinion.

You can't be racist toward your own race. Simple as that.

If he's not a bigot what's that video about where he calls people idiots for expressing their opinion about the Smith's?

Yes you can be racist towards your own race.

Niamh. 10-06-2016 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8705978)
I dressed entirely in black and cat burgled his house in the middle of the night and stole that picture from a drawer in his study. Then scanned it in to my PC.

Or perhaps I just googled his famous chess player dad.

There's no need to be rude, Jez :/

ThriceShy 10-06-2016 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8706041)
There's no need to be rude, Jez :/

It just seemed an odd question. Given that the source of the pic is in the URL when you click it.

Niamh. 10-06-2016 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8706056)
It just seemed an odd question. Given that the source of the pic is in the URL when you click it.

I didn't know he was a famous chess player

ThriceShy 10-06-2016 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8706083)
I didn't know he was a famous chess player

So you did no research on andrew before deciding he was a racist.

Tom4784 10-06-2016 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8705995)
Please don't make me post the definition of bigot again.

He has said nothing bigoted. The bigots are the people who don't want him to express his opinion.

You can't be racist toward your own race. Simple as that. He is just a bit of a WUM on twitter.

You need to read those tweets again.

Ah, the ol' 'I'm not a bigot! YOU'RE THE BIGOT FOR NOT AGREEING WITH ME' line. You're the one that needs to read the definition of bigot because disagreeing with someone doens't make you a bigot and no one has said anything about wanting to suppress his right to his opinion.

That's the annoying thing about bigots, they get really upset when people disagree with their views, they act like they are under attack, that they're the only people with a right to an opinion, that their word is law. Everyone has a right to an opinion. Andrew can say whatever bull**** comes to mind and anyone can call his view bigoted because that's THEIR opinion and their entitled to it as much as he is. It's a two way street, not just a get out of jail free card to justify a person's terrible opinions.

He's shown time and time again that he is both a bigoted and awful human being. Accept it or not, it doesn't change what he is.

Tom4784 10-06-2016 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8706106)
So you did no research on andrew before deciding he was a racist.

The racist and homophobic tweets are usually enough to tip most people off that he's a bigot.

ThriceShy 10-06-2016 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8706119)
The racist and homophobic tweets are usually enough to tip most people off that he's a bigot.

You really seem confused about the word bigot. A bigot is not someone who discriminates. It is someone who thinks that their opinion is the only one that matters. That tag applies more to andrew's detractors than it does to andrew.

It just looks ignorant to keep using the wrong word.

Ashley. 10-06-2016 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8706130)
You really seem confused about the word bigot. A bigot is not someone who discriminates. It is someone who thinks that their opinion is the only one that matters.

You're completely correct. And what better person to fit the definition than the man himself.

ThriceShy 10-06-2016 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashley. (Post 8706155)
You're completely correct. And what better person to fit the definition than the man himself.

Nowhere has the future BB winner andrew said that other people's opinions don't matter. It is his detractors who have clearly stated on here that he should be ejected for his opinion. So it is they who are the bigots, not Andrew.

hot2go 10-06-2016 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8706106)
So you did no research on andrew before deciding he was a racist.

I don't think the person who asked you about Andrews dad being a chess player has called Andrew a def racist ...

Tom4784 10-06-2016 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8706130)
You really seem confused about the word bigot. A bigot is not someone who discriminates. It is someone who thinks that their opinion is the only one that matters. That tag applies more to andrew's detractors than it does to andrew.

It just looks ignorant to keep using the wrong word.

You aren't someone that should be calling other people ignorant given how deep your head is buried in the sand over Andrew's comments.

Ashley. 10-06-2016 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8706162)
Nowhere has the future BB winner andrew said that other people's opinions don't matter. It is his detractors who have clearly stated on here that he should be ejected for his opinion. So it is they who are the bigots, not Andrew.

Well, if we look over the evidence we've been given, he clearly doesn't think much of the opinions and views of different races, different sexualities and different genders. You say a bigot is someone who is intolerant of those holding different opinions, so you're merely just confirming the fact that Andrew is one. You ought to work on your defence, really.

ThriceShy 10-06-2016 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8706172)
You aren't someone that should be calling other people ignorant given how deep your head is buried in the sand over Andrew's comments.

I simply haven't taken his comments in isolation. The briefest bit of investigoogling reveals him to be black. Believing a black man can be racist against blacks is as dense as it gets, in my opinion.

At worst, he is just a twitter troll in the katie hopkins or frankie boyle mode.

The desire to make it something else is simply fans of other housemates trying to scuttle him.

Jack_ 10-06-2016 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8706162)
Nowhere has the future BB winner andrew said that other people's opinions don't matter. It is his detractors who have clearly stated on here that he should be ejected for his opinion. So it is they who are the bigots, not Andrew.

Weren't you the one last year campaigning for Danny to be ejected/evicted because of a few tweets he'd made in the past, even going so far as to create a ****ing website called 'getdannyout.com'? :umm2:


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