Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 8743242)

Charley was a mix of Science and Nikki which was gonna give her a more iconic presence for the die hards (which the show will want to please to an extent) than someone just copying her Diary Room rants and then is just in a dull Showmance for the rest of the time.

Originally Posted by y.winter (Post 8743255)

I guess I'm with the few people who like Bea. She was brilliant :love:
I even liked Lisa.

Surreal series.:hehe:

Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8743151)

Big Brother 8 was the death knell for BB on Channel 4. It came after the Jade Goody fiasco but so many things were wrong it...

1. The all female start

2. The drip feeding of men into the house

3. The hysterical overreaction to Emily's silly mistake

4. The appalling ejection of Emily in the middle of the night with her saying "But I'm not wearing any underwear" as she was told to exit.

5. The fixing of nominations to keep Charley in longer than anyone could bear (after bringing Nikki back the year before)

6. The abysmal Half way house idea (which they seem to have been inspired by this year and which ended up being even worse)

BB7 had, until Nikki's eviction, an average viewing audience of 4.8 million. BB10 had an average viewing audience of less than 2.5 million. They lost over 2 million viewers in a couple of years.

As for BB10. It was awful. In the first week they had Sophie and Freddie rename themselves Dogface and Halfwit. They had Noirin walking around with glasses and a moustache drawn on her face. The live coverage was seriously reduced and the tasks were utter crap.

Originally Posted by Greg! (Post 8743681)

The current style of editing started in BB11 though. The only difference now is that they play music at the start of the episodes and have recaps before the titles. I would like it if the old style of editing came back but I've accepted that it's never going to happen

Originally Posted by Jason. (Post 8744287)

^

BB13 was actually really natural too. And there was hardly any meddling from the producers part either. That all started in BB14

Originally Posted by Jason. (Post 8744287)

BB13

Originally Posted by BB-J*I*N*X (Post 8744301)

Originally Posted by BB-J*I*N*X (Post 8744301)

not really, BB allowed them too talk about nominations from the start & as a result the house was full of obnoxious bullies, WORST SERIES EVER!

Originally Posted by Oaker (Post 8744352)

How can people complain about how BB isn't how it used to be on C4 when their favourite C5 series is BB14, you know, the series where the production because unfair and biased, normal nominations were few and far between and there were twists basically every week.

Originally Posted by Jason. (Post 8744329)

But that was also present during the second half of BB12-onwards? BB13 only had that rule for the first two weeks.

And I don't think them being allowed to talk about nominations is why the house was full of obnoxious people - although it did heighten the bitching, backstabbing, and paranoia within the house but that was still present weeks after that rule had been reverted.

And it's not the worst series ever. The majority of series on C5 have been way worse. Nice try loov

Originally Posted by Jason. (Post 8744357)

It had a vegetable patch = YAY C4 BB / BACK TO BASICS :cheer2:

Originally Posted by Jason. (Post 8743243)

I adore Bea <33

True sociopath but made such a great villain

Originally Posted by Oaker (Post 8744352)

How can people complain about how BB isn't how it used to be on C4 when their favourite C5 series is BB14, you know, the series where the production because unfair and biased, normal nominations were few and far between and there were twists basically every week.

I still think BB14 is a good series, but I just find it silly how people bash BB13 all the time when it was the most natural C5 series ever.