I agree and I would talk over people if I was in there with some of them idiots.

And likes letting them feel that, which he knows full well they will react angrily to.

anyone would think being reasonably smart is:

a) something to hide
b) something that, should you let it slip out, you must immediately apologise for and appear humble
c) something best dumbed down because it makes others feel uncomfortable



*sighs*

:clap1:

It's not something you rub other people's faces in either.

Treating people in a smug manner is not the same as letting your intelligence slip out.

No one wants him to dumb himself down. They just want him to stop being such an insufferably pompous arsehole.

I know :laugh: none more blind than those who refuse to see

Maybe there's cross wires and we've been actually watching a different show :laugh:

I know, you want him to yell and screech, be rude, run around with his shirt off and gossip behind peoples backs. Principles are old hat and something to be despised. I get ya! :smug:

Being thick is the new 'in' thing. The likes of Joey Essex are applauded ffs...its apparently 'endearing' to have nothing between the ears (or pretend to have nothing, which is even worse)

Don't want him to do anything of the sort. I already told you what I want... For him to stop being an insufferably pompous arse. This is unlikely though because it seems to just be in his nature.

Nothing to do with it. No one has a problem with intelligent housemates. They have a problem with pompous self righteous pricks.

Indeed.

we're never going to agree on this subject.

how do you feel he is rubbing people's faces in it?

smug is a case of personal inference - i'm not seeing smg when it comes to him. long-suffering, patient and incredibly controlled? yes.

they want him to not exist in the house. they don't like the mirror he holds up to their attitudes and behaviour just be being himself. if he shouted and pranced about, threw food and wore next to nothing, got off his head on drink and drama,he'd be warmly welcomed as one of their own.

Long suffering. LOL

Yeah, you've said that many times already. Can I eat my bran flakes now please?

He likely ends up talking over them after listening a while but realising they are talking nonsense to him near all the time.
Why should he be bothered with or respect anyone doing that.

Being intelligent is fine, of course, but it's what other traits you surround that intelligence with that counts. If you use your intelligence to be a judgmental **** stirrer, then of course that's not a good thing.

Is Andy condescending, smug, patronising, and all the rest?

Well, yeah, of course he is.

the tv producers are to blame for exploiting people like him to make money, paying them as celebrities for a limited shelf-life after which they get discarded and spend the rest of their lives chasing tv appearances and cultivating substance abuse/emotional/psychological issues :rolleyes: they should be celebrating people who've achieved something - whether it's becoming a doctor, an astronaut, an author, a scentist, an athlete - rather than just someone on tv because they've hair extensions, false boobs, fake tans, and will do anything for tv exposure and regular trips to sugar hut.

how very dare you be so passive-aggressively smug-faced arsey?

It's sad ......people celebrate being thick ...it's a modern trend....even in the office task they promoted the housemate who kicked off and didn't work ...being stupid is rewarded so much that when someone isn't impressed by it that person gets attacked...it's inverted snobbery....Andy judges them on their appalling behaviour not their position in life but they judge him completely on how academic he is.....for all the shouting and drama and puffing out of the chests that some of them do, the person they are most scared of is Andy.
Lateysha says she's got no GCSEs like it something to be proud of, like its something she's not responsible for.....she's wears her Vulger and course personality like a badge of honour ...Andy represents everything they failed at but that's no reason he should feel ashamed of that or should have to sink to their level....he can't bring them to his level, they will only pull him down to theirs, he's waiting his time trying to reason with morons.

Yes Joey, you can sense that he's so frustrated at being misunderstood and criticised yet he tries so hard to keep his cool and his dignity - and he does an amazing job of it.
When you look at Laytesha and Chelsea losing their heads over trivialities like pancakes, in comparison Andy's composure under personal attack in is even more admirable.

Hes not god though and cant complain when he gets called oit when he is disecting evryones personality himself.

I don't see him as smug at all. He listens and puts his point across in a calm and dignified manner. And he shows moments of kindness like talking to Evelyn before and after the evictions.

so??? how do you feel he's rubbing people's faces in it?

:joker: Yeah, Andy can't win, can he?

i'm failing to see anyone, least of all andy (whom i see as a very nice, normal person of reasonable intellect), thinking he's godlike

gawd, i need to type something i can smug-emote to