TBH I've never encountered/spoke to someone wearing a veil. But if I did, it would be pretty rude as I wouldn't see who I'm talking to, and as Lauren said, it hides their identity.

hear hear,absolutely true.:thumbs:

true true true,if they cant live by the British way of life they should push off to an arab country.
why should the rules bend for them.:nono:

Are you saying that you feel they should be banned outright
and made illegal anywhere in the uk under all circumstances,
including homes,places of worship,private gatherings etc ?

I am also curious about your own situation at your school.Was the Head concerned about the possible legal implications.I heard recently about a school facing the prospect of having to pay nearly £1/2 millon to defend their actions similar to yours.(except it was the teacher not the pupil wearing one)

Don`t get me wrong,I dislike the veils myself and I understand your position completely ,but it is a very tricky area and thats why I beleive it should be a partial ban,which would probably include areas of communication such as schools, but an outright ban seems a step too far IMO.

I think wearing whatever they want at home is upto them but it seems be double standards happening alot. People are not allowed to wear "hoodies" in main shopping places as people cannot see who they are...yet people are allowed to wear veils.

Unfortunately these garments are a way of life for some people and nothing is going to change this fact.

Personally I don't find hijab or shayla offensive but I am very intimated by the niqab or burqa. The latter two are the types of veil for the face that leaves the area around the eyes clear or covers the entire face and body, leaving just a mesh screen to see through.

:hello: Spot on agreed with everything.

Although I do not like religion, I respect that people are religious and that their religion holds certain traditions.

I do not think it fair to say "ban them completely" or "if they're in our country do as we do"... It is pretty much like saying "if ur gna wear that veil you can **** off home"

If they do not abide with certain laws then it is understandable, but we have to be tolerable of other people's cultures, religions as you would expect other people to be of yours, and not just shun them because you do not undertand them.

but muslims are very intolerent of other religions in muslim countries. you should read up on what the word "dhimmitude" means.

heres an example of muslim "tolerance".....
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/

All religions are intolerable, as they suggest there is only one god, and their god and they have no respect for other religions.

But of course you are right, muslims are intolerable of other religions , therefore lets not respect them hey ...:rolleyes:

christianity doesnt advocate the murder of people who do not worship christ.....

"A Turk who claims to be a descendant of Islam's prophet Muhammad has converted to Christianity while living in Germany.

But Sedar Dedeoglu, of Luedenscheid, now faces a threat to his life if he's forced to return to Turkey, and is seeking help from German authorities.

Dedeoglu, who is involved in Christian outreach programs among Muslims, has been receiving death threats from Muslims unwilling to accept his conversion. His relatives also regard the apostasy as shameful.

If Dedeoglu is returned to his native country, he very likely would be killed, his lawyer says."

Right... I see you obviously have a strong problem with Muslims.

Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57:

Narrated 'Ikrima:

Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to 'Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn 'Abbas who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah's Apostle forbade it, saying, 'Do not punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire).' I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"

Volume 9, Book 84, Number 58:

Narrated Abu Burda:

Abu Musa said, "I came to the Prophet along with two men (from the tribe) of Ash'ariyin, one on my right and the other on my left, while Allah's Apostle was brushing his teeth (with a Siwak), and both men asked him for some employment. The Prophet said, 'O Abu Musa (O 'Abdullah bin Qais!).' I said, 'By Him Who sent you with the Truth, these two men did not tell me what was in their hearts and I did not feel (realize) that they were seeking employment.' As if I were looking now at his Siwak being drawn to a corner under his lips, and he said, 'We never (or, we do not) appoint for our affairs anyone who seeks to be employed. But O Abu Musa! (or 'Abdullah bin Qais!) Go to Yemen.'" The Prophet then sent Mu'adh bin Jabal after him and when Mu'adh reached him, he spread out a cushion for him and requested him to get down (and sit on the cushion). Behold: There was a fettered man beside Abu Muisa. Mu'adh asked, "Who is this (man)?" Abu Muisa said, "He was a Jew and became a Muslim and then reverted back to Judaism." Then Abu Muisa requested Mu'adh to sit down but Mu'adh said, "I will not sit down till he has been killed. This is the judgment of Allah and His Apostle (for such cases) and repeated it thrice. Then Abu Musa ordered that the man be killed, and he was killed. Abu Musa added, "Then we discussed the night prayers and one of us said, 'I pray and sleep, and I hope that Allah will reward me for my sleep as well as for my prayers.'"

i have a problem with most religions, yes my greatest problem is with Islam.

I too am not religious, and do not agree with religions.

But too completely generalise is unfair. And to ban a veil because it is not the traditional custom of British people is unfair.

Im not opposed to all religions even though i dont have faith in them, peaceful religions like buddism and rastafarianism are acceptable, they dont see violence as a way of dominating the world.
Also of course people vary in their adherence to their religion. It just seems that Islam is the religion of terror and hate rather than love and peace, If i was a christian i would go as far as to say Mohammed is the false prophet the bible warned us about.

I feel that they should not be worn in public places. In this era of increasing fear of terrorism it seems inappropriate for our country to allow someone to walk around with their faces covered, yet a kid can not wear a hoodie as it covers their faces!! kind of contradicts itself doesnt it!

Thanks for the link.

I must admit that these examples of intolerance make me angry inside,especially when it happens in our own country.
I am also infuriated how few muslim leaders stand up and unconditionally condemn the actions of extremists.
However lets not match intolerance with intolerance,that surely will put us all in the same boat.We should ban some of the veil types when it presents critical problems in terms of security and important unavoidable communication such as schools and in the work place.However most of the time it can be our choice to avoid it.Personally, I'm not that interested in holding a conversation with someone who has their face completely covered.
I thought the story about barbers being warned of violence against them for shaving customers was horrendous.I don't even know what this beard thing is about to be honest??(can anyone explain this to me)
Our freedom of choice is being pushed to the limits but I still think we should stand strong and hope eventually they will realise that some of their actions are infact beyond the reasonable.I still think it must be a partial ban,and obviously not all types of veils.

Why do you believe this? Because of the bombings?

not just the bombings but the kidnappings, gleeful beheadings, medievil treatment of women (including female circumcism and public stoning to death of pregnant women), the acts of pedophilia both in the qur'an and modern life (adults marrying 4 year old girls etc), the honour killing of female children in the name of allah, the fact that music was illegal under taliban rule in Afghanistan, need i go on?
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/7...headir1.th.jpg

and to show you the music vid that is passed around many a british mosque that celebrates the act of killing non believers of islam follow this link to youtube.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3efv4oIdRY4
a "kuffar" is a non believer. just listen to these british muslims laughing their asses off at the thought of september 11th.........

Strike off the head of the infidels. Cut off every finger tip (Sura 8:12)

If a Muslim does not go to war, Allah will punish him (Sura 9:39).

agreed and spot on.!
seeing people completely covered is quite scary,even my dogs are terrified of them.:dog:

OMG that made me laf