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GiRTh 13-02-2007 04:42 PM

If Jo wants to starve herself? What do you want from me.? If she doesn't want to eat then so be it. Her people need to help her. I don't think you can blame the papers for her predicament. If she truly needs help than I hope she gets it but if it's sympathy they're after, they've come to the wrong place.

Mrluvaluva 13-02-2007 04:43 PM

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Originally posted by GRiT
If Jo wants to starve herself? What do you want from,me.? If she doesn't want to eat then so be it and people need to help her. I don't think you can blame the papers for her predicament. If she truly needs help than I hope she gets it.

Grit - the papers have been very unkind to her and this has contributed to her current situation.

Ruth 13-02-2007 04:44 PM

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It's in the Daily Star - 'nuff said!

That's a bit cynical. I can't see them making this up, and if it's a PR stunt then it would be sick.
I am cynical when it comes to the Daily Star. They have reported lie after lie after lie. Some of them far bigger and potentially more damaging than this one. I don't think this is a PR stunt on behalf of Jo O'Meara - but I think you really can't believe a word that is written in that 'newspaper'.

GiRTh 13-02-2007 04:46 PM

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If Jo wants to starve herself? What do you want from,me.? If she doesn't want to eat then so be it and people need to help her. I don't think you can blame the papers for her predicament. If she truly needs help than I hope she gets it.

Grit - the papers have been very unkind to her and this has contributed to her current situation.
the papers have contributed but Jo could have done a few things to save herself, and she chose not to.

If she needs help then I hope she gets it, but sympathy is something she'll never get from me.

zachary 13-02-2007 07:05 PM

I feel sorry for her...but that doesn't mean I like her.
Hope she gets better and I never see her again.

tinkerbell 13-02-2007 07:34 PM

Why make everything public? if you are that distressed why tell the world?

Ruth 13-02-2007 07:39 PM

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I feel sorry for her...but that doesn't mean I like her.
Hope she gets better and I never see her again.
Well yeah, that just about sums it up for me.:thumbs:

spacebandit 14-02-2007 08:48 AM

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If Jo wants to starve herself? What do you want from,me.? If she doesn't want to eat then so be it and people need to help her. I don't think you can blame the papers for her predicament. If she truly needs help than I hope she gets it.

Grit - the papers have been very unkind to her and this has contributed to her current situation.
Would these be the same papers printing planted stores to win her sympathy ?

She's planted more stuff than Alan Titchmarsh.

You can believe the PR hype if you want, some of us live in the real world

Mrluvaluva 14-02-2007 09:05 AM

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If Jo wants to starve herself? What do you want from,me.? If she doesn't want to eat then so be it and people need to help her. I don't think you can blame the papers for her predicament. If she truly needs help than I hope she gets it.

Grit - the papers have been very unkind to her and this has contributed to her current situation.
Would these be the same papers printing planted stores to win her sympathy ?

She's planted more stuff than Alan Titchmarsh.

You can believe the PR hype if you want, some of us live in the real world

Where's that? Cloud cuckoo land? Hope you never get ill with depression.

spacebandit 14-02-2007 02:37 PM

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She is on suicide watch. And we only get to hear of her plight, and not "real personal trauma", as she is a "celebrity" (of sorts).
I don't think it's lies, or PR trauma, as you put it. She is a real person, with a family, and friends, and people who love her. I wouldn't wish this on my own worst enemy.
yeah
her family and/or representatives are so concerned that they took the time out to go to the Star ?.

:whistle::rolleyes::rolleyes:

The story is so obviously planted I can smell its perfume from here,
I strongly even suspect a whiff of BS in there as the whole thing is a made up PR stunt.

Well, you are entitled to your opinion, but I don't agree. Jo has not been splashed accross the tabloids daily, and as Lorna states, the press got the story out of a friend of hers.
Oh yeah - I bet they really had to twist arms to get the story out of a friend of hers :rolleyes:


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spacebandit 14-02-2007 02:37 PM

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Originally posted by BAZG
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Originally posted by GRiT
If Jo wants to starve herself? What do you want from,me.? If she doesn't want to eat then so be it and people need to help her. I don't think you can blame the papers for her predicament. If she truly needs help than I hope she gets it.

Grit - the papers have been very unkind to her and this has contributed to her current situation.
Would these be the same papers printing planted stores to win her sympathy ?

She's planted more stuff than Alan Titchmarsh.

You can believe the PR hype if you want, some of us live in the real world

Where's that? Cloud cuckoo land? Hope you never get ill with depression.
Morning
Coffee
Sniff

Mrluvaluva 14-02-2007 03:23 PM

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If Jo wants to starve herself? What do you want from,me.? If she doesn't want to eat then so be it and people need to help her. I don't think you can blame the papers for her predicament. If she truly needs help than I hope she gets it.

Grit - the papers have been very unkind to her and this has contributed to her current situation.
Would these be the same papers printing planted stores to win her sympathy ?

She's planted more stuff than Alan Titchmarsh.

You can believe the PR hype if you want, some of us live in the real world

Where's that? Cloud cuckoo land? Hope you never get ill with depression.
Morning
Coffee
Sniff

You were right, it mentions on another thread that there was a post on her website saying it was not true. I take some of it back! It wasn't a PR stunt though, but the papers making stuff up again.

Ruth 14-02-2007 03:49 PM

Which is exactly what I said.

Mrluvaluva 14-02-2007 03:50 PM

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Which is exactly what I said.

True

CharlotteSometimes 16-02-2007 08:47 AM

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i don't think she would be the typa of person to starve herself.
But isn't loss of appetite a common complication of shock, fear, anxiety, nervous exhaustion, etc? She certainly wasn't faking anything in the GMTV interview, so she very probably is eating very little or nothing at all at the moment.

GiRTh 16-02-2007 10:57 AM

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i don't think she would be the typa of person to starve herself.
But isn't loss of appetite a common complication of shock, fear, anxiety, nervous exhaustion, etc? She certainly wasn't faking anything in the GMTV interview, so she very probably is eating very little or nothing at all at the moment.
So what? I'm completey indifferent toward her.

Ruth 16-02-2007 11:38 AM

I'm not sure she wasn't faking during the GMTV interview. But regardless, I wouldn't wish any harm upon her, whether by her own or by others' doing. Doesn't mean I have to like her though.

cc100 16-02-2007 03:01 PM

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Why is she starving herself?
Yes, I'm going through a similar thing, but not on purpose.

If it's true:sad:
Its merely a pathetic attempt at gaining sympathy.:rolleyes:

CharlotteSometimes 16-02-2007 03:17 PM

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So what? I'm completey indifferent toward her.
You're more than entitled to be indifferent towards her, of course. But 'So what?' in response to the alleged/possible scenario that she's suffering from mental trauma on any level, or 'starving' herself, whether it be a deliberate bid for attention or a legitimate complication of her current circumstances is more than a tad harsh, don't you think? Even if she was 'guilty' of even a fraction of the things she's been accused of recently, she's received more than sufficient 'punishment', or karma, or whatever. She's a human being, and casual indifference for her well-being is, under the circumstances, callous in the extreme.

GiRTh 16-02-2007 03:30 PM

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So what? I'm completey indifferent toward her.
You're more than entitled to be indifferent towards her, of course. But 'So what?' in response to the alleged/possible scenario that she's suffering from mental trauma on any level, or 'starving' herself, whether it be a deliberate bid for attention or a legitimate complication of her current circumstances is more than a tad harsh, don't you think? Even if she was 'guilty' of even a fraction of the things she's been accused of recently, she's received more than sufficient 'punishment', or karma, or whatever. She's a human being, and casual indifference for her well-being is, under the circumstances, callous in the extreme.
I don't think so. I hope she gets the help she needs to get better, - I've stated that all along - but more than that, I can't be bothered with her. I simply cannot get emotional about her breakdown. Sorry.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'under the circumstances'. Under different circumstances Jo wished a breakdown on Dirk. I recall her saying she wanted him to crack, then followed by 'Crack Mutha*****a Crack, then she laughed. What a peach, aye? She's toxic, vindictive and I'll stop there but I could fill a page with awful words to describe her. Also, when she came out of the house there was no semblance of an apology but the repeated claim that she was stitched up by the editors.

Are you starting to understand my indifference a bit better? I don't wish bad or good on her I just couldn't care less either way.

CharlotteSometimes 16-02-2007 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by Ruth
I'm not sure she wasn't faking during the GMTV interview. But regardless, I wouldn't wish any harm upon her, whether by her own or by others' doing. Doesn't mean I have to like her though.
It's always a possibility, Ruth - although I'll still have to disagree. If for no other reason, the tabloids would've had every last frame of that interview scanned by body language experts, looking for proof that it was a sham. As for 'liking' her, I thought S Club 7 were pants - although pants of immense unintentional comic value, admittedly. I remember now seeing them interviewed - it was straight after their last ever tv performance as a bland, or something. I expected her to be a bit posh for some reason, so her accent shattered illusions I'd held for several years. But then she cried at the end of the song, and I just thought to myself; 'awww, sweet girl'.

I forgot about her straight afterwards of course, until CBB started. Again I was a little shocked by the accent, swearing, smoking and tattoos. There's absolutely no justification for that of course, but it was further shattering of my own rash assumptions. So it took a bit for her to grow on me, but after a day or so, she came across as a modest, sweet-natured and quite amusing girl. I saw a few uncomfortable moments since then, for sure. But there's not been a hm I've liked yet who hasn't shown their own fair share of similarly uncomfortable moments, either. I've still seen nothing to warrant the comments from pretty much all quarters which range from mild comtempt to outright scary and malicious hatred. The latter worry me far more than an ordinary working class girl who stepped out of a tv studio and found herself in Salem, rather than Hertfordshire.


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I don't think so. I hope she gets the help she needs to get better, - I've stated that all along - but more than that, I can't be bothered with her. I simply cannot get emotional about her breakdown. Sorry.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'under the circumstances'. Under different circumstances Jo wished a breakdown on Dirk. I recall her saying she wanted him to crack, then followed by 'Crack Mutha*****a Crack, then she laughed. What a peach, aye? She's toxic, vindictive and I'll stop there but I could fill a page with awful words to describe her. Also, when she came out of the house there was no semblance of an apology but the repeated claim that she was stitched up by the editors.

Are you starting to understand my indifference a bit better? I don't wish bad or good on her I just couldn't care less either way.
I'm not 'emotional' about it, I just think that kicking someone when they're down is frankly rather sick (I refer to the general ethos here by the way, rather than anything you may have posted personally on the matter).

I mean 'under the circumstances' of someone who is being vilified for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. There's an enormous difference between a baying mob hypnotised by the media, and a genuine girl with a good sense of humour. So yeah, she's peachy-keen in my book. She could've/should've apologised for a few cultural gaffs and one obnoxious stereotype, for sure. But she came out of the house accused of being a racist and a bully, yet she's quite clearly neither (based on the CBB footage we've been shown). So if she'd apologised then in the glare of those bogus accusations, she'd have been 'confessing' to 'crimes' that she blatantly did not perpetrate. As for the editing, if there wasn't a deliberately negative slant put on that, why was she shown smoking perpetually? We all know that, celebrities or not, such luxuries are in limited supply after a week or so. So where did the cigarettes come from, if they weren't being highly selective with the footage shown on the recap show? I think we have the grassy knoll right there.

I'm afraid not, no. Nothing I saw in the house, or have read in your posts today, would enable me to rationalise the 'crossing the street' mentality (collectively, rather than on your part alone). Indifference to the innocent is not something I can conveniently brush under the carpet, I'm afraid.

GiRTh 16-02-2007 04:35 PM

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She could've/should've apologised for a few cultural gaffs and one obnoxious stereotype, for sure. But she came out of the house accused of being a racist and a bully, yet she's quite clearly neither (based on the CBB footage we've been shown). So if she'd apologised then in the glare of those bogus accusations, she'd have been 'confessing' to 'crimes' that she blatantly did not perpetrate.

I'm afraid not, no. Nothing I saw in the house, or have read in your posts today, would enable me to rationalise the 'crossing the street' mentality (collectively, rather than on your part alone). Indifference to the innocent is not something I can conveniently brush under the carpet, I'm afraid.
There's no question she should have apologised. The fact you feel her crimes were slight is not the point. My mother lives in Jamaica. While BB was on s he called me to ask me how I was - as she does every few weeks. In the course of the conversation she asked what was happening in the UK. I told her about BB and she already knew about it. This story went global. The size of the crime doesn't matter; she should have apologised. I feel there is no question about that.

I'm sick of the bad edit defense. It seems to be the standard defense for everybody who makes a fool of themselves in the house. For me it enraged me even more when I heard her say that.

Obviously, a breakdown is nothing to trifle with. I just can't be bothered about it. Under different circumstances Jo can be fun time Franky but the circumstance always seem to involce someone else suffering. I can't work her out and the conclusions I have come to, based on the way she presents herself, make me indifferent towards her.

easypeasy 16-02-2007 05:14 PM

am i right in thinking she had admitted to suffering with eating disorders before she went in the house?

Kristen 16-02-2007 07:35 PM

I envy her being so famous. If I went on BB I wouldn't care if I was booed or hated cos that would mean I'd been an entertaining housemate. Still I feel sorry for Jo because she's used to getting good press. It's probably easier for Jade and Danielle cos they have had bad press in the past and know how to deal with it.


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