That's a pretty stupid and unjust thing to say. Some of the 'chavs' are harmless and are 'just there' because they have nowhere else to be. I'm not saying i like them because the majority are horrid, vile people but there are others who are not doing much harm. Therefore, labelling 'chavs' as murderes is pathetic.

How am I stupid for saying that? Suddenly my intelligence is called into question for having an opinion, the horror. As for unjust, it depends what way you look at it. You say there are people that are normal, and then surely my post wouldn't be aimed at them because therefore they wouldn't be the demoralizing bunch of idiotic Chavs that I’m critical of?!

And then being called pathetic now let me explain this aswell. I didn’t infact imply that they are murderers I more implemented that what they do equates to that of murderers, very different to the dribble you were making what I said, out to be.

Having seen what they do on the frontline, smashing and destroying business’s, setting them on fire, stabbing/beating the shopkeepers, basically doing anything in there power to make them feel like they have done something wrong, it seems people who do go out and murder someone actually do much much less then these Chavs. Were not talking a one of incident, were talking a repetitive endless tirade of torture which spans out for years and years. Victim upon victim. Your telling me that sort of behavior is acceptable just because these victims aren’t being killed? Or is being verbally and physically abused acceptable?

Whatever you say, in my eyes they are as bad if not worse then many criminals out there if you take into account the sort of things they get up to in just one day.

So thanks for labeling me stupid and pathetic.

Oh god, put the violin away. I weren't labelling 'you' stupid and pathetic, i was saying that you saying chavs are just as bad as murderers is pathetic.

I don't know your definition of a 'chav' but mine is the people who stand on your street corner, drinking/smoking/smoking weed in gangs, they intimidate some people without even doing anything. They do petty crimes now and again. Stereotyping them as people who stab and beat people who ruin everything that doesn't belong to them isn't a fair comment. I'm not saying ALL 'chavs' don't do that because some probably do but so do a lot of other people who are not YOUR stereotypical chav. Therefore, the 'normal' people that i'm talking about are 'chavs'. The majority are vile but i know/know of 'better of' people who are 10x worse.

And i've not once said that I think the behaviour you've stated above is acceptable because that hadn't even been mentioned by anybody beforehand so don't put words into my mouth.

Well, as we've already established. We both obviously have different definitions of a chav which is why 'my dribble' was made out to be like that. But anyway, you honestly think that beating somebody, robbing a shop, intimidating people all 'equates' to taking somebody's life away? Nah, i really don't think it does.

If I required a violin I wouldn’t need to type but rather parade my thoughts through the way of music, without the violin though, we will have to do with text. If you didn’t mean I was ‘stupid’ and ‘pathetic’ why did you use them words? It makes common sense that you type what you actually mean.

Yes you have the little wannabie gangsters who couldn’t scare a duck out of water, I’m not talking about them, I’m talking about the people who actually set out to make people feel like ****, destroy people and generally bowl about like that have a bag of chips on there shoulders and rugs under there arms. Stereotypical? If it’s dress sense and the actual look you’re talking about, it’s not so much that, it’s there attitude and chavtastic personalities or lack of to be fair.

I wouldn’t want to put words in your mouth, amongst other things; I was merely bringing an example your way to make you think otherwise. Debates are amazing don’t you think?
As I said, the things these Chavs do over time, can equate to that of a single murder, just because they don’t stick the knife in doesn’t mean what they are doing isn’t as bad! The things they do, can take what life the victims have away because they live in fear to do anything that would lead you to believe they are in fact living!

The fact he's wearing a hoodie, holding his hands down his pants and is making gun gestures says a lot about him.

Lmao... I had a good joke to respond to that with, but it's just plain wrong. :hugesmile:

Keep it to yourself, Fahey. :nono:

haha.. did it involve the word.. wanker?

Legend and Tanser_Man... Peace, man!

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Noooo, much worse than that. It wasn't rude, just it encapsulates about 4 minority/stereotyped groups. :laugh: Lmao.

ahh ok. :laugh:

Tanser is right.

These eejits are ruining 85% of normal peoples lives. I cannot walk around the city centre after 7pm for fear of abuse.

I always stuck up for chavs, but now Ive had enough.

Is it still 'Great' Britain?:nono:

shame its not a real gun he's pointing at the tory twat........

:nono: Leave wor Davie alone! :laugh:

He's alright.

he's more "Tony Blair" than Tony Blair..........him and Blair are like two cheeks on the same arse......
GEORGE GALLOWAY FOR PM!

Oh no! I still have nightmares about his cat impression!

He is the only mp to have made the U.S senate look like the dumb liars they are, and at least he was being a good sport in the bb house rather than moaning all the time and being racist.

From Sky News:

A teenager who pretended to shoot Conservative leader David Cameron has admitted a drug charge.

The 17-year-old pleaded guilty to possession of £5 worth of cannabis following a police raid at his home.

He was fined £25 with £55 costs at the hearing at Manchester City Magistrates' Youth Court.

The teenager had been held in custody for two days after his arrest.

Officers raided his home and searched his bedroom where they found a small quantity of cannabis in a bag hidden in his wardrobe.

District Judge Wendy Lloyd said she was "concerned" that he had been kept in custody for possession of such a small quantity of cannabis.

She added: "That you have been dealt with differently causes me great concern."

The teenager made the gesture to impress fellow gang members as they followed Mr Cameron while he toured a council estate in Manchester.

The Tory leader was meeting young people to talk to them about rebuilding families and communities as a way of tackling Britain's gun-toting gang culture.

The youth, who now cannot be named for legal reasosn, told The Sun newspaper he was in a gang called Benchill Mad Dogs and made the gesture he called a "click bang" for "a laugh and a buzz".

He thought it would be "fun to showboat for the lads".

I think he might need a job. Or a life. Whichever arrives first.

Despite him being a complete chav the cops are freaking idiots for wasting time on such a small matter.
Idiots all round it seems

Not funny at all. I can't see myself ever voting for Cameron, but what people think of him is not the point.

He's in the news again! From Sky News:

Thumbs Down For Cameron
Updated: 13:12, Thursday March 01, 2007

David Cameron just can't escape hand gestures from young people - even when he is more than 2,000 miles from home.

A week after a "hoodie" aimed an imaginary gun at him on a deprived Manchester estate, he got the thumbs down from a young girl in Israel.

To make matters worse the cheeky child was caught on camera adding to the effect by sticking out her tongue behind him as he entered the Old City of Jerusalem.

Look behind you, David Pictures of a Manchester teenager's mock gunshot at the Conservative leader as he attacked the Government over gun crime were seen by millions last week.

The yob described his gesture as a "click-bang", and said he did it to impress his friends.

But it didn't impress police when he boasted about taking drugs. They later raided his home and found a small amount of cannabis.

Mr Cameron is on a two-day visit to Israel which is due to include talks with Prime Minister Ehud Olmert.

He has visited the Western Wall in the midst of Old City of Jerusalem, the Dome of the Rock, and the Separation Barrier in the Abu Dis area of the city.

Lmao!

I don't think she was thumbs-downing him cos of policies, I'm pretty sure she doesn't understand that.

..Pikey?

O_o



Anyhow.


Well I think it's funny. Great photo opportunity, 'grats to whoever took it. :laugh:

Who is he? and why are they doing it?