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Lostie! 25-08-2016 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Daffodil (Post 8943969)
Glad you agree!!!! :joker::dance:

Making the most of the school holidays I see :joker::dance:

Amy Jade 25-08-2016 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rubymoo (Post 8943943)
When you've watched some one die of cancer, and they've died in your arms, you'll understand that its not an acceptable metaphor.

I was in the hospice as my aunt lay dying and I don't find it offensive at all.

Maru 25-08-2016 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 8943981)
I've actually heard my Nana say it about David Cameron and she's survived cancer twice.

All I can say is... I'm a Cancer and I'm not insulted... :laugh:

Have had a few family members who are crippled with Dystonia and it's a common slander term to call someone a cripple. Had a fair amount of very ugly people call my mother a cripple and walk behind her mimic-ing her poor mobility. Have seen some of the ugliest of human nature.

Though, I don't get upset when someone says someone is crippling a situation, or the economy is crippled or this feeling is crippling. It's just a metaphor, a creative use of language, an emotive way to communicate new meanings. Metaphors don't necessarily disparage the victims and the causes surrounding those victims. #savetheenglishlanguage

rubymoo 25-08-2016 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 8943990)
I was in the hospice as my aunt lay dying and I don't find it offensive at all.

My mum in law died in my arms high on morphine and drowned in her own bodily fluids and it breaks my heart every single day so i find it highly offensive, call me sensitive, call me what you want, i think cancer is an evil disease that robs people of their loved ones and is a term that should not be used lightly.

Amy Jade 25-08-2016 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Maru (Post 8944011)
All I can say is... I'm a Cancer and I'm not insulted... :laugh:

Have had a few family members who are crippled with Dystonia and it's a common slander term to call someone a cripple. Had a fair amount of very ugly people call my mother a cripple and walk behind her mimic-ing her poor mobility. Have seen some of the ugliest of human nature.

Though, I don't get upset when someone says someone is crippling a situation, or the economy is crippled or this feeling is crippling. It's just a metaphor, a creative use of language, an emotive way to communicate new meanings. Metaphors don't necessarily disparage the victims and the causes surrounding those victims. #savetheenglishlanguage

:clap1:

I get people can be offended by it, but I feel the op's reaction is well, a bit overly dramatic.

Daffodil 25-08-2016 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Maru (Post 8944011)
All I can say is... I'm a Cancer and I'm not insulted... :laugh:

Have had a few family members who are crippled with Dystonia and it's a common slander term to call someone a cripple. Had a fair amount of very ugly people call my mother a cripple and walk behind her mimic-ing her poor mobility. Have seen some of the ugliest of human nature.

Though, I don't get upset when someone says someone is crippling a situation, or the economy is crippled or this feeling is crippling. It's just a metaphor, a creative use of language, an emotive way to communicate new meanings. Metaphors don't necessarily disparage the victims and the causes surrounding those victims. #savetheenglishlanguage

Someone with intelligence speaks at last!!! Thankyou.

Weyr 25-08-2016 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 8943890)
It's a well known saying...

I lost my auntie to cancer last year very unexpectedly because she knew it was terminal and she didn't want us all worrying and I wasn't offended.

Actually I find this thread more offensive.

I agree 100%. I lost my mother last year to cancer too, and again I didn't find it at all offensive. I find the sight and sound of him totally offensive however, and would love for him to fail at the final hurdle.

Greg! 25-08-2016 09:46 PM

I'm screaming at the faux outrage omfg. If bear said it his fans would be calling it an epic speech

Headie 25-08-2016 09:46 PM

Capricorn !!!!!!

rionablue 25-08-2016 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 8944021)
:clap1:

I get people can be offended by it, but I feel the op's reaction is well, a bit overly dramatic.

Im really really surprised you said that Amy Jade. I thought that they could have used ANOTHER term other than cancer. I dont like it used like this and thats why I created a post I dont even LIKE bear. Anyway a few people agree with me you are entitled to your own opinion but I am a bit hurt if I am honest. Peace though

Amy Jade 25-08-2016 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rubymoo (Post 8944016)
My mum in law died in my arms high on morphine and drowned in her own bodily fluids and it breaks my heart every single day so i find it highly offensive, call me sensitive, call me what you want, i think cancer is an evil disease that robs people of their loved ones and is a term that should not be used lightly.

I'm genuinely so sorry for your loss, I know how hard it is to see somebody deteriorate before your eyes, it's the hardest thing I've ever been through and I do understand you being offended and that's absoloutely fine

rionablue 25-08-2016 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 8944055)
I'm genuinely so sorry for your loss, I know how hard it is to see somebody deteriorate before your eyes, it's the hardest thing I've ever been through and I do understand you being offended and that's absoloutely fine

You see this is what I dont get. I lost my Mum, best friend and my father in law and friends son through cancer so I am also offended the term was used anyway I am not going to criticise forum members I will move on

Amy Jade 25-08-2016 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rionablue (Post 8944053)
Im really really surprised you said that Amy Jade. I thought that they could have used ANOTHER term other than cancer. I dont like it used like this and thats why I created a post I dont even LIKE bear. Anyway a few people agree with me you are entitled to your own opinion but I am a bit hurt if I am honest. Peace though

I mean I'm sorry you're hurt but I am entitled to my opinion as much as anyone else, I didn't find her remark offensive at all, I wouldn't if anyone said it - maybe because I've heard it before and heard it said by somebody who has had cancer

BB-Fan 25-08-2016 09:53 PM

Bang out of order, and absolutely offended me....

Vanessa 25-08-2016 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BB-Fan (Post 8944078)
Bang out of order, and absolutely offended me....

It was awful.

rubymoo 25-08-2016 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 8944055)
I'm genuinely so sorry for your loss, I know how hard it is to see somebody deteriorate before your eyes, it's the hardest thing I've ever been through and I do understand you being offended and that's absoloutely fine

It's ok Amy, i'm sorry for your loss too, it's just a word that i wish never existed :hug:

smudgie 25-08-2016 09:59 PM

Well known metaphor.
It wasn't directed at any of us personally so i dont see the need for all the fuss.
Had she said that she wished he was struck down with cancer then maybe that would have been different.

Daffodil 25-08-2016 09:59 PM

I am offended by Bear. Maybe we should stop talking about him???

Lostie! 25-08-2016 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg! (Post 8944034)
I'm screaming at the faux outrage omfg. If bear said it his fans would be calling it an epic speech

Why is this ridiculously overused cliché still a thing? People have very valid reasons for being annoyed by flinging the term "cancer" around so casually.

I'm not expecting everyone take issue with it but a little basic understanding as to why some people are wouldn't go amiss.

And I'm no Bear fan whatsoever (but on the subject of your last point, I doubt this would have been defended half as much had he said it so I'd say people on both sides would be guilty of having a different response depending on who said it).

susie q 25-08-2016 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg! (Post 8944034)
I'm screaming at the faux outrage omfg. If bear said it his fans would be calling it an epic speech

It would be added to his list of 'funny moments' for sure. We none fans must learn that we can not say anything bad about the virtuous bear, for fear of upsetting him or fans. Im speaking as the mother of a son who had Leukemia as child(he survived). I didnt find it offensive, I took it the way it was meant in that Bear is a character who enjoys spreading negative vibes around, and can be very cruel. My son hates him even more than I do and thought cancer was a good word to describe how vile he is. If Bear had said it his fans would be agreeing with him, no doubt about it, the double standards have been bad this year.

Marsh. 25-08-2016 10:06 PM

The english language is more complex than that.

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can·cer
ˈkansər/

a practice or phenomenon perceived to be evil or destructive and hard to contain or eradicate.
"racism is a cancer sweeping across Europe"
So Bear being a cancer of the house would be quite a valid sentence.

Amy Jade 25-08-2016 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 8944126)
Well known metaphor.
It wasn't directed at any of us personally so i dont see the need for all the fuss.
Had she said that she wished he was struck down with cancer then maybe that would have been different.

I totally agree, had she wished him to get cancer I would be absoloutely disgusted and my support of her would come to a halt.

rk3388 25-08-2016 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete. (Post 8943892)
Cancer: an evil or destructive practice or phenomenon that is hard to contain or eradicate.

Queens of expanding people's vocab!

x2

wendywillow 26-08-2016 12:32 AM

before Aubrey described him as herpes. sounds like bears a thrill to live with

Shaun 26-08-2016 12:40 AM

Nothing wrong with saying it really and to suggest that everyone who does has no experience of the actualities of cancer is a little bit daft.


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