Agreed.

Mess I made a similar poll unaware there was already one.

But Bear.

Helen wasn't a bad winner. Get OVER IT.

Bear as at least there was stuff being shown on BB15 that weren't to do with Helen.

But the worst winners are the quiet ones, they completely go against everything to do with BB as a social experiment.

Anyway, as annoying as Bear might be, Helen has a black hole where her heart should be so I vote her.

Did you watch BB15?

Both equally repulsive, equally nauseous and equally intolerable.

The quiet winners are the worst thing is ****ing tired

there's nothing wrong with a cute under the radar nice winner such as James and Katie Price

But it is as all that can be discussed is how incredibly dull they were.

At least Bear, Helen, Nadia, Brian Dowling, and Josie etc all did things to inspire people to love them or hate them, someone like Jason Burill or James Hill did **** all and still won, I mean wtf!?:joker:

yeah, considering that the alternative winner archetype is "loud asshole who dominates airtime by using the same tactics for literal months" I much prefer *BORING* MORP winners like Rachel and Chloe and Sam. I don't know, considering the current state of this show it's nice to see actual decent people being rewarded since it happens so rarely now.

Helen, Nadia, Brian = the best winners

James Hill being boring is a myth.

He was actually a massive contributing factor to CBB16 even if he wasn't Janice Dickinson or Farrah Abraham.

Katie Price could be funny, that's a personality trait to me.

I don't mind chilled out winners, I do mind quiet zombie winners though.:laugh:

Katie Price is the best CBB winner.

Doing nothing (although most of the 'boring winners' actually had cute moments) is a lot better than actively ruining the show like Helen and Bear did

I don't want it to be in extremes all of the time though Macie.

I'd like it if a Freddie Fisher, Kieran McLeod, James Whale, or a Lisa BB9 type of winner where they're eccentric/witty whilst still being likable and not in your face all of the time, yet we never get those and instead have loud in your face type of winners like Bear, or we get really dull Chloe from BB16 type of winners.

is Kieran McLeod seriously your go-to example of an eccentric HM?

James Hill :love:

His humour was kind of chilled out for Ch5 standards, it was refreshing and eccentric for them.:joker:

"gap year for chavs" and "YAY you're back :)" are much more witty and eccentric than anything Kieran ever said or did

As is all the hysteria and hyperbole surrounding dislikeable contestants winning reality TV programmes being 'scum' like it's the end of the world and a cultural failure etc etc etc, talk about 'doing the most'

Anyway I haven't watched three quarters of this series and I didn't rate Bear that much when I stopped so the inevitable debate that'll now ensue as members of this forum try and paint me as some villain is entirely pointless and misplaced, so let's quit while we're ahead shall we

Kieran in two weeks did more than most of the BB16 final, or this final for that matter.:joker:

Kieran did literally nothing in his 2 weeks

He's definitely awful, it's not a defense of him, I just thought Helen's awfulness seemed to come more naturally to her, which puts her ahead of him imo.

I didn't to be fair, I'm just going on what I saw of her in BB16. I can't bring myself to watch BB15 [emoji23]