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Tom4784 02-09-2016 02:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8959124)
Dezzy wins 500pts for getting the correct answer

https://67.media.tumblr.com/39611438...u8fho1_500.gif
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Niamh. 02-09-2016 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 8959149)
I assumed trolley was weird Irish speak for train :suspect:
:laugh2: I think it's an American word actually, I just copied and pasted that

Alf 02-09-2016 02:18 PM
You tricked me once, I won't let you trick me twice.

Niamh. 02-09-2016 02:25 PM
I was joking about Dezzy being right guys :facepalm:

Tom4784 02-09-2016 02:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8959188)
I was joking about Dezzy being right guys :facepalm:
It's not their fault, they're used to me always being right.

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Ammi 02-09-2016 02:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8958917)
Answer Situation 1 before reading Situation 2, it's interesting

Situation 1
Spoiler:

Situation 1: There is a trolley coming down the tracks and ahead, there are five people tied to the tracks and are unable to move. The trolley will continue coming and will kill the five people. There is nothing you can do to rescue the five people EXCEPT that there is a lever. If you pull the lever, the train will be directed to another track, which has ONE person tied to it. You have two choices:
(a) Do nothing and the five people will die
(b) Or pull the lever and save the five people, but that one person will die.


Situation 2
Spoiler:

Situation 2: There is a trolley coming down the tracks and ahead, there are five people tied to the tracks and are unable to move. The trolley will continue coming and will kill the five people. However, in this situation, you are standing on a bridge above the train tracks and you can see the train coming. There is a man standing next to you, who is so enormous and heavy that if he places himself in front of the oncoming train, it will hit and kill him but the train will stop. So you have two choices
(a) Do nothing and the five people will die.
(b) Push the big guy down the bridge. He will be killed but will stop the trolley and save the five people.



Result after thought
Spoiler:

The ironic part about this problem is that while most people would choose the option (b) for the first situation, they will choose option (a) for the second situation, when technically, in both situations, you are sacrificing one man to save the lives of five people.


http://thoughtcatalog.com/lenna-son/...ake-you-think/
Spoiler:

...do nothing and do nothing for both../I couldn't make the choice to actively kill anyone, that's not my decision to make...it's interesting/scary though...how easy to press that button when you wouldn't be looking into the faces of those you were killing...

Cal. 02-09-2016 11:23 PM
I chose B for both.

Like others, if it was my family member I had to kill then I'd choose the 5 people to die instead.

James 02-09-2016 11:46 PM
It reminded me of a radio play I heard.

https://audioboom.com/boos/2036445-ethics-man

If you choose B you are a utilitarian: an action is only a moral action if the consequences are good - the consquences are good if they increase the sum of human happiness.

user104658 03-09-2016 12:24 AM
I can't get past the question of how fat a person has to be to STOP A TRAIN. :omgno:

Otherwise, it depends.

I'd bump off 5 old people to save one child, no problem. But then, I'd literally let everyone else in the world die - all 7 billion - to save my own children. Hmmm.

kirklancaster 03-09-2016 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 8958960)
If someone is fat enough to stop a train they haven't got long left anyway lbh
:laugh::laugh::laugh: Pure LOGIC Smithy - and so hilarious with it. :clap1::clap1::clap1:

kirklancaster 03-09-2016 06:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8958968)
This two year old has it sussed :fan:

Youtube video
:joker::joker::joker: If only life WAS as simple as it seems to a child. That kid might grow up to be a real SuperHero.:laugh:

kirklancaster 03-09-2016 06:23 AM
Spoiler:

I would pull that lever and divert the train/trolley, in the first scenario, because I would be sparing 5 lives and sacrificing one, and also sparing countless others - all those relatives and loved ones of the 5 saved - from all the grief and heartache of their losses, whilst limiting such grief to just one poor family.

In the second scenario, I would push the fat guy in front of the train, because I would be saving 6 lives and many more others the grief and heartache of bereavement, whilst limiting the loss of life to just one, and the grief of the bereaved to just one family.

AND - in my opinion - the bastard is the one who tied all those poor feckers to the tracks anyway, and he was 'hanging around' on the bridge for a good view to watch the results of his handiwork. :laugh:


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