jade, an icon??? you must be kidding.....lmao

^ god... just looking at her disgusts me....

I am not surprised at your reply really!

If you don't like Jade Goody and can't understand that she has a firey personality and on reality shows, like Big Brother, it is more than likely that Jade Goody will get into a heated argument with someone.

But, this is what people like to see!

When Big Brother do interviews for future housemates on their show. They look through thousands of applicants.

They are looking right now.

When they do these interviews, they try to find people who have that special-something. They will then make a short list. I can't say how many or how few, as I don't know? But eventually, they will choose their housemates.

Jade Goody got picked and appeared on Big Brother, first time round and at that time, she also had arguments and heated discussions. But, from beyond that show, she has become very popular indeed. MEGA-POPULAR!! I am not over-estimating here.

She has come from nowhere. Not had an easy upbringing. Talks very fast and has a London cockney accent too.

What do you expect?

Everyone to have class and manners and be so good natured? Life is not like that. Jade Goody is just very tough. She has had to be. But, if you get to know her and also, you listen to her and have a laugh.

You would like her!

Sadly, she found Shilpa Shetty, to be an irrotant? Don't ask why! Only Jade, Danielle & Jo can answer that.

Jo O'Meara did say in her interview with Davina, that, not everybody can click. We can't all get on. It is true and even though, there is total outrage of what people saw on Celebrity Big Brother, it really wasn't that bad.

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You also say, that she "Got caught!" I don't really understand that?

Jade Goody goes on Big Brother where everybody can see what she is doing. She is not hiding away. What you see, is what you get with Jade. She doesn't have to get caught. She is caught! and usually on camera.

This is what people crave for. "More from Jade Goody".

"Low-Life's" are usually people who mug old ladies or, spend their lives signing on the dole, or something? I usually use that term to someone really horrible and poor. Usually a theif or something?

NOT JADE GOODY!

She is worth about 8 million or abouts. Hardly a low life. She also works hard for her money. She's never out of the media, in one way or another. It sounds to me as if your jealous of her success and have to change it into something completely opposite?

Jade Goody is going with "Jack Tweed". I don't think he is in the money?

Her education has nothing to do with her mannerisms.

"What gave you that idea?"

Not all thick people are bad. Jade Goody is not bad!

She is just a girl who has worked hard, been lucky too and made money, but has a short fuse with liars and people who tell her to "shut-up"

Shilpa made things worse at that point!

If anyone doubts Jade Goody getting her career back they should remember back to Big Brother 3 when she was the most hated contestant ever. A lot of people thought Jade would be hated forever and suffer abuse in the streets but no she proved them wrong and became one of the most loved Big Brother contestants of all time. The hate of Jade now is nothing compared to the hate that surrounded her in Big Brother 3. If Jade can make millions after Big Brother 3 and become loved then of course she'll get her career back now after Celebrity Big Brother.

That term, "Shilpa people" is a comment which implies, "Racism". Are you saying that Jade Goody is a racist bully or just a bully?

Are you implying that, just because Jade Goody argued with Shilpa Shetty and also distanced herself from her, along with Danielle & Jo. That Jade was the ring-leader and is a racist person, because of what you witnessed on one show?


I used "Jermaine Jackson" as an example.

He is coloured and so is Shilpa. They are different, because, one is of Indian nationality and Jermaine is a black person.

You could say that, Jade Goody has no problem with Jermaine Jackson, as, her only concerns are with Indian people.

But, where do you get your evidence from?

Calling Jade Goody a racist person is a serious accusation and because of people like yourself, who jump to conclusions and with no real evidence whatsoever, There are three Big Brother housemates living in fear and hatred.

Big Brother is very strict on Racism. They will NOT allow it at all. If they did, they would be held accountable!

This has not happened! even though the authorities have tried.

There is NO evidence of this and just because you don't personally like Jade Goody, that is no reason to treat her in this fashion.

So! Jade is NOT a model like, "Danielle Lloyd".

Are you saying that people who don't look that good are all bad and evil?

Jade Goody has a good heart and her priorities in the right place.

Right now, she is putting her children first, just like any mother should.

and her sons mean everything to her and they wouldn't bother about Jade Goody's looks, so why should you!

So where is your evidence to prove that she's not racist???

Are you saying that people who don't look that good are all bad and evil?
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The reason Jade was so popular after Big Brother was because she wasn't the stereotypical blonde glamour girl that always goes in. She made mistakes and said silly things and had her rough days. As for Jade not being good looking she is a lot better than she used to be and her haircut has made her look better and she always dresses to suit her figure.

how do you know whether or not I was talking about her looks? ...that picture clearly shows how low her character is...and yet you say she's an icon...

putting her children first? she didn't go home for a couple of days after she left the house...

She doesn't need to prove anything!

Jade Goody wouldn't need to give anyone the time of day, for that kind of question?

To place her in the position she is now, just because you want her to prove that she is NOT a racist person, is very sad indeed!

It all comes down to evidence. You have to first, prove what she has done wrong to Shilpa Shetty.

Shilpa has already said, that she doesn't think that Jade Goody is a racist person.

She also admitted that Jade Goody did not get on with her and the argument was very upsetting to Shilpa and Jade Goody is very sorry to Shilpa and has not just appologised to Shilpa herself, but, also to Shilpa's family and to the many people who have been offended by what went on in the Big Brother house.

Many of the comments in the show and the actions towards Shilpa, could have been construed as being racist, but, they were NOT.

She understands how it could come across.

I am NOT blaming Shilpa Shetty. She is a very nice person, with manners and all the rest.

Jade Goody is from a different upbringing and culture.

It is very difficult for two people like that to agree?

You must understand this and instead of inciting hatred of Jade Goody, just try to understand her and accept it.

SHE MUST BE FORGIVEN FOR SUCH A SMALL THING.

She "got caught" in both the sense and application that the third time she bullied someone on a reality tv show she had to suffer consequences.

You sidestepped that witn an attempt at flippancy. That shows exactly your motivation.

But to continue :
A certain type of person may indeed crave more Jade Goody - namely people who believe being an uneducated fool is somewhat endearing, or is their perception of "real". Some may also be the type who hide in packs and bully weaker people - it does not suprise me that those type of people would "crave more Jade Goody". I wonder which camp you fall into.

The term low-life cannot be excused just becasue of how much money a person has managed to acquire. Jade is the very definition of a "low-life". An uneducated buffoon who both glorifies and wallows in her ignorance. Good luck to her for making that much cash, to me all that really shows is how far down this country has sunk into a quagmire of stupidity. She has never knowingly had a penny off me nor ever will have. I am sure you enjoy sending her donations

You say her education has nothing to do with her mannerisms, well let us presume to also mean manners and give you the benefit of the doubt. Actually it has everything to do with it. A well eductaed well brought up individual can choose to act an ignorant uneducated fool. Jade on the other hand is an ignorant uneducated fool who has been tutored by a management company to play on that, her one and only character trait and to cash in on it. Her agent has opened the doors for her to earn from being stupid - good for her, it does not however take away the fact that she is an ill-mannered uneducated lowlife, no matter how you would wish to apply semantics to that explanation.


You say she has "a short fuse with liars and people who tell her to "shut-up" - had you been familiar with her behaviour as displayed on the live feed of CBB I would have to say that statement is astonishing sophistry. However you are clearly not aware of the live feed broadcasts.

You seek to apologise for a serial bully - one could easily say that birds of a feather flock together and wonder if you have been caught out yet like Goody has, but that wouyld be lowering myself to your level.

Instead you have an agenda that is so transparent it beggars belief,

So I bid you enjoy the world you live in, where bullies prosper and the racist shed the crocdile tear at the drop of a hat - all to be forgiven and that forgiveness sweetened with a cheque. And where the apologists need to excuse their behaviour to explain away some deep seated need or trait within themselves - your last point where you blame the victim - tsk tsk

I don't live in that world
I live in the real one

Where I shall not hesitate to call a bully a bully
A low life a low life
and a racist scumbag a racist scumbag.

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putting her children first? she didn't go home for a couple of days after she left the house... [/quote]

That's because she didn't want them to see her crying.

I was asking you for your evidence to prove that jade is not a racist since you questioned shilpa_fan of her evidence for saying that jade is a racist?

That's because she didn't want them to see her crying. [/quote]

that's quite a lame excuse for not returning home...
she said her "windows were smashed" and she recieved death threats...so how could she have the heart to leave them on their own...while she was rotting at a hotel

i'm sure any mother would put her life at stake over her children

jade is a FUC|<ING HYPOCRITE, PHONY, FAKE, LYING bitch wanting sympathy from ppl like you...i'm sure she didn't even get death threats...and yet she called shilpa a phony.

"Goody has been living in fear following her comments on Celebrity Big Brother, and alleged that her Harlow home windows were smashed [75], but Essex police reported to the media that only one window was cracked[76]. " - wikipedia.

claiming that her windowS were smashed when there was only one small crack in her window, and yet she calls shilpa a liar. She's a fuc|<ing HYPOCRITE.

living in fear, loll....danielle is on almost every spread of the daily in skimpy underwear and flashing her bust...getting wet and wild with her friend in dubai...
they all deserve to live in fear if they happen to be living in fear. karma.

she told shilpa that she needed to spend a day in the slums, well in the end the fuc|<ing fat fuc|< ended up in the slums donating money to try and save her ass... and deleted that remark... we don't allow comments wishing physical harm to BB housemates on the forum. Please don't defeat the swear word filter by replacing characters either. Admin

The world of Jade Goody is the world that you and myself and others see on the TV screen and in the newspapers.

That is our only medium for judgement of her.

You stick yourself down on a comfy chair or setee. Witness this young girl, talking fast, cockney accent & very stupid sounding. Then, you see her mouthing off too.

Then, you look at her and don't fancy her either. You would make comments about her and probably use nasty comments to her looks as well.

You say that she has been caught "Three times?" (WOW!!) That is serious!!! SARCASTICALLY.......

You say that Jade Goody's agent is advising her to play on her thick ways and that acting like she does is a good view for reality shows. Also, it makes reality shows, want her!

She may have been caught "Three" times? But, what was so serious before? Hardly like what she is going through today. We need to put things in perspective,

The situation on this show, was much different.

Jade Goody could have had a serious argument with "CLEO" and it could have been 10 times worse. But, it would never have had the same result that has now happened to this last Celebrity Big Brother. This was a RACE issue. "something quite different"

I could compare "Jade Goody's" behavior to the behavior of, "Simon Cowell" on the, (x-factor) Watching an auditionee try to sing and then have Simon say really nasty stuff to them. Bring them to tears, sometimes.

IT IS CALLED, REALITY TV...

We live in the age of Reality TV and crave for real standout characters.

They have to think of ratings and the housemates on Big Brother can sometimes go totally mad. Look at "George Galloway" & also, "Pete Burns". (NEED I SAY MORE?)

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You ask "what camp to I come into?". Well, we are talking about, "Jade Goody" and not myself. So, it doesn't really fit into this discussion. However, as you are the curious type? I fall into the, "victim" section, rather than the "agressor". I don't condone bullying and don't like people who bully either.

SO, You ask, "Why am I supporting a bully"??

Jade Goody has appeared on reality shows and shown us that she can easily get offended by what people say.

She will talk to someone and then, she will spot a (LIE), she will then, make a point of it.

After that, she will exchange words with that person and maybe he or she will walk away from Jade Goody. This will leave this disagreement unsorted. It will play on Jade's mind and Jade will voice her opinions with another housemate or two. She will get angry, as Jade can't help getting upset. It plays on her mind and she wants to sort this out and also, have it out with that person on the show.

There is a balance that you need to understand! Jade Goody is being watched by many camera's. and you can't help, but "play to them". Many housemates do and Jade Goody is an experienced young woman, who knows what gets ratings. She will have an argument on the show and take things to the edge. But there is NO violence. Just a war of words.

All someone has to do, is to tell her to "eff off" or swear words to that effect! Jade Goody would start shouting and saying nasty things, but she will back down eventually.

Still, no violence. Just a war of words and Jade Goody getting tunnel vision in a moment of madness.

A lot of people in this country and in fact, globally! are uneducated. This is NOT Jade Goody's fault. It is just a matter of fact and it was up to the parents of a child to make sure they are educated or not. Don't blame anybody for there actions, because of their lack of education. Hardly fair! and that sounds like a bullyish comment!

Jade Goody wouldn't care what you spend on her? who would?

Jade didn't have manners on the show. But, she does say please and thankyou. Also, I have seen Jade on interviews and also I have seen manners. But generally, on a reality show. Jade Goody does come across as an ill mannered agressive person. That is a fair comment to what you witness on these shows. But, you still can't judge Jade Goody as a girl, totally without manners. That is unfair and also, cannot be proved

I am aware of the (LIVE BROADCASTS)

Are you aware of periods of time where the sound is muted and all we hear is "bird-whistling?"

Also, are you aware, that, on live broadcasts. They focus in on a conversation between two housemates, while, the other housemates are in other rooms and could be doing or saying anything? Please be clear!!!

You don't need to lower yourself to my level. As you have an ego, much too big for me. So "everybody must be lower to you", unless they agree with you?

I have the right to defend Jade Goody on her behalf. As she is not on this forum to defend herself. You don't know who I am? so let's ignore the, "transparancy" comment! The "agenda" part is like any person in a debate.

Some give in & some state the facts of that person or situation and I am happy to answer all questions with FACTS and without lying. Which I don't do, nor Jade Goody herself.

Jade is not a racist person! Enjoy your opinions. That is all they are and nothing more.

On the show, bullying was evident, but it wasn't serious. We saw edited highlights, like I keep saying. Arguments and dislikes build up over time. Shilpa Shetty may have been accidently patronising to all three of the girls. We don't really know how they all perceived Shilpa? We can only judge, from the televised parts.

Many of Jade's arguments were horrible to see. But, there are always two sides to each story and you will of course blame Jade Goody, because you are blinded by the shows, containing her lovely self and it bothers you.

You'll just have to put up with it

She'll be back.....

OKAY, (MANSI). I see you need a lot of answers to your many questions regarding the lovely Jade Goody.

Well, here goes:-
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The racism part cannot be proved! (end of that interview!!)

If you expect me to disprove it? I can only make judgements from what I know and what I see. Just the same as yourself.

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The police wouldn't let Jade Goody see her children, once she left the Big Brother house. This was a safety precaution.

You can find the information on the internet.

Jade Goody wanted to see her children and that is FACT!!

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Jade is NOT a fake/liar/or anything else false.

Jade Goody is very truthful and will be honest and not be false to people in any way.

This is her problem sometimes, She is too honest and will make it into a heated argument, stating that she is being truthful & "You are a liar!!" she will say....

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Jade Goody did have threats. So did, Jo O'Meara. But Jade has been singled out as the worst of the lot! This is unfair and untrue.

She just said what she thought to Shilpa, while the other two just laughed and hid away.

Jade has had to deal with, not only threats and nasty taunts from Jade-Haters, but, also, she has had to recognize the recent attack on her mother, Jackyie.

I hope you are keeping your eyes open here Mansi?

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Jade has been in the news papers, many times, since the Big Brother/Shilpa incident.

The news papers can overstate things and a crack in the window or broken windows, is still worrying to Jade & her family.

"Don't pick on little things like this", just to prove your case, which is without evidence and totally one-sided, just for Shilpa fans and people who are NOW enjoying Jade Goody's situation.

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Jade said, "You should try to live a life in the slums", or words similar to that effect.

This is Jade Goody, comparing the life's of luxury that both of these girls are in and then, using the word, "Slums", to show the difference between surviving and good manners.

They just have to survive in the slums. No time for worrying about manners and reality shows there.

DON'T START PICKING ON JADE GOODY ON THAT COMMENT!!!

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Calling "Shilpa" (a liar), was about the "OXO" cube argument. Shilpa just wound Jade Goody up.

Don't get too concerned about things that get said during an argument.

It was 6 of one & half a dozen of the other.

But they kissed and made-up, that is what Jade Goody prefers to do. She doesn't bear grudges.

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I am looking at "Danielle's" pictures of her in sexy clothes.

SO WHAT!!!! That has nothing to do with this debate.


Fashion & modelling go together.

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Your nasty words towards Jade Goody are your own and there is a nasty club of people who are described as a MOB of JADE-HATERS.

they don't understand much, except, that they hate her.

Very sad and naive!

Basically, a lot people think that Jade is a bully and doesn't treat others very well and why should she get a celebrity career on the back of that.

It might be different if she had some sort of talent to offer.

I didnt mention Jade being racist.

It's simple. Jade is controlled by a team of people. They prepare a situation to put her in, then they release her into it like 'a bull in a china shop'. Jade acts like her stupid self making sure she is very disrespectful and offensive, and the headlines come spewing out from the tabloid media morons.

It is a simple concept that isnt hard to understand. If youre wondering WHY they go to all this trouble, ask yourself if it is just a pleasant coincidence that MILLIONS and MILLIONS of pounds is made from all this. [/quote]




I never said that you mentioned that she is a "racist". Just that many think that she is! I am very glad that is your opinion. it is nice to hear.

Sadly, due to the mass opinion of people, here in the UK and in India. The words, (Jade Goody) & (racist) are together in one sentance and that is so real for Jade Goody and the media love it.

Jade will have advisors and management who will whisper in her ear and say, "Cause a bit of hell in the house!!!" "It makes people watch you and people want you too". Being boring and quiet, doesn't get you noticed, generally!!

However, Jade Goody will go in the house and still not have any idea of who she'll meet. They may all be nice and kind, etc..

Jade Goody is not going to start on innocent people. It is always because they have been lying to her or something. Jade Goody has little time for liars and plenty won't blame her.

Jade will start getting mad, that is what she can be like. But don't judge her from the edited highlights of reality shows.

Nothing bad has ever happened to Jade Goody, like this year. This was totally about the racist overtones, etcc.,. and nothing else.

The Ken Russell argument was not hardly mentioned. (AN ARGUMENT IS AN ARGUMENT. A FALL OUT IS A FALL OUT)


So, this says it all and even though you don't like Jade Goody's ways. She probably wouldn't like your ways?

But Jade Goody has suffered like mad and this is unjust!! [/quote]

Um, she spewed out a great load of lies when she exited BB.. like, I havn't seen my children in weeks,my windows were smashed by angry BB viewers, and don't get me started on those embarrassing crocodile tears! Jade is a liar, so obviously she's also a hypocite now too, afterall she can't persecute someone for bending the truth, when she does it herself..

Eeew people actually think Jade is an icon? She is a loud mouth chav and thats all she ever be.

Oh dear LORD! Hang me now! I made a type and edited my post but forgot to take out the word people... God what have I done, i've brought out my secret that I am a racist... umm ok, got to start doing community service to prove that I am not, maybe for a UK based organisation