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Withano 28-11-2016 08:44 PM

"Paul Nuttall begins first day as UKIP leader by preparing resignation speech"

Kizzy 29-11-2016 05:40 AM


Cherie 29-11-2016 05:55 AM

:joker:

arista 29-11-2016 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9077421)
"Paul Nuttall begins first day as UKIP leader by preparing resignation speech"

No need
he is in for the long run.

Withano 29-11-2016 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9077815)

:joker:

Crimson Dynamo 29-11-2016 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9077815)

Its not funny, he is not funny, he has never been funny.

Alf 29-11-2016 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9077815)

Would you like me to counter that with Bernard Manning?

Crimson Dynamo 29-11-2016 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9077913)
Would you like me to counter that with Bernard Manning?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/f...c691a075a6.jpg

Crimson Dynamo 29-11-2016 10:38 AM


Northern Monkey 29-11-2016 11:15 AM

Yeah alot of rubbish seems to get spouted about UKIP and indeed Paul Nuttall.I think he's the right man for the job.If you ever listen to him on Question Time he's often the one who makes the most sense and sometimes the ONLY one making any sense:laugh:
I did think that there was no need for UKIP after the referendum but with all these sour remainers who keep trying to throw a spanner in the works of BREXIT it's actually giving UKIP more reason to stay relevant.Infact if these remainers actually did manage to reverse BREXIT then UKIP would get massive support.So it's win win for them really.

Crimson Dynamo 29-11-2016 11:42 AM

If we learned anything from 2016 its that UKIP are relevant and are important and that the critics were wrong (and still are wrong) to dismiss them in such a nasty bigoted way.

Tom4784 29-11-2016 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9077033)
Still playing identity politics I see, you're obsessed with separating and pigeon holing groups of people.

You can try to discredit equal rights all you want, it's not going to work.

Crimson Dynamo 29-11-2016 12:56 PM

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/...0417540454.jpg

Kizzy 29-11-2016 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9077980)
If we learned anything from 2016 its that UKIP are relevant and are important and that the critics were wrong (and still are wrong) to dismiss them in such a nasty bigoted way.

Define 'bigot'...

Crimson Dynamo 29-11-2016 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9078229)
Define 'bigot'...

anyone who, by thinking that they are right and in the nmajority, feel able to personally abuse people who do not subscribe to their way of the world and thinking.


"yeah Farage is a moron and anyone who voted for him is a wanker and a racist"

"i hope he dies"



etc

etc

Withano 29-11-2016 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9077980)
If we learned anything from 2016 its that UKIP are relevant and are important and that the critics were wrong (and still are wrong) to dismiss them in such a nasty bigoted way.

Bigot is a funny word. Like if all racists are bigots, and all those who oppose racism are bigots for not accepting their views.. Then who isnt a bigot?

(I'm not calling UKIP racists, but I think at this point its safe to acknowledge that they got the bad rep from some of the racist/homophobic party leaders).

I just think the word is a bit of a nothing statement, especially in the context that you've used.

Crimson Dynamo 29-11-2016 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9078250)
Bigot is a funny word. Like if all racists are bigots, and all those who oppose racism are bigots for not accepting their views.. Then who isnt a bigot?

(I'm not calling UKIP racists, but I think at this point its safe to acknowledge that they got the bad rep from some of the racist/homophobic party leaders).

I just think the word is a bit of a nothing statement, especially in the context that you've used.

I am glad, however, that you agreed with the main part

"that UKIP are relevant and are important and that the critics were wrong"

Withano 29-11-2016 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9078254)
I am glad, however, that you agreed with the main part

"that UKIP are relevant and are important and that the critics were wrong"

They were relevant in the years leading up to the election too. Joint 10th most relevant in the United Kingdom right now.., so less important than the press they get, but nothing to ignore.

reece(: 29-11-2016 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9077140)
Which politician isn't in your view?

Wonderful Caz Lucas

Brillopad 29-11-2016 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9078235)
anyone who, by thinking that they are right and in the nmajority, feel able to personally abuse people who do not subscribe to their way of the world and thinking.


"yeah Farage is a moron and anyone who voted for him is a wanker and a racist"

"i hope he dies"



etc

etc

Here, here it does of course work both ways. None so blind as those that will not see.

Kizzy 30-11-2016 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9078235)
anyone who, by thinking that they are right and in the nmajority, feel able to personally abuse people who do not subscribe to their way of the world and thinking.


"yeah Farage is a moron and anyone who voted for him is a wanker and a racist"

"i hope he dies"



etc

etc

That's not the correct definition, and I have never said anything like that please don't insinuate I have.

Northern Monkey 30-11-2016 09:16 AM

bigotry is intolerance towards those who hold different opinions from oneself.Happens alot on here:laugh:

Crimson Dynamo 30-11-2016 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9079114)
That's not the correct definition, and I have never said anything like that please don't insinuate I have.

i didnt :shrug:

if you can show me where I did that would be great

:0

user104658 30-11-2016 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 9079209)
bigotry is intolerance towards those who hold different opinions from oneself. Happens alot on here:laugh:

It doesn't, people are confused about the definition though only slightly, although you're defining it correctly.

Bigotry is intolerance of a person overall because of the views they hold. It has nothing to do with tolerance of the viewpoint itself. You can tolerate, accept and even like a person who holds one or more views that you find abhorrent and you do NT simply have to accept those views and leave it at that... you can (and in some cases, should) try your damnedest to let that person know that you find their views unacceptable and to convince them to change their views. This is not personal intolerance. So long as you are not harming nor discriminating against someone because of the views they hold in situations where those views are irrelevant, then challenging and refusing to accept someone's opinions is not bigotry.

user104658 30-11-2016 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9078235)
anyone who, by thinking that they are right and in the nmajority, feel able to personally abuse people who do not subscribe to their way of the world and thinking.


It also has absolutely nothing to do with "being in the majority" or "feeling in the majority".

The second part is correct but, again, attacking someone's views and opinions does not constitute "personally abusing" that person.


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