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arista 04-12-2016 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fireplace (Post 9084629)
Straight people are entitled to Prep as well

They sleep around too

HIV isn't a "gay" problem


Sure
but on both Live debates on LBC
it was on Gay Fellas.
And NHS Funding

Jamie89 05-12-2016 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 9084628)
The problem is Jamie89

'gay men sleeping around'

Thats increased
as on Sites they say "I am, fully prepped"

Ref : Checked Live on LBC 10AM show, today

also some drinkers "may" forget to take that pill
a few times,

Its a massive amount of NHS Cash

Again though, it's a minority of gay men that will be irresponsible on prep, like I said it's unfair to punish everyone else for what some will do (and really that punishment extends to the whole of society since HIV is increasing, in London especially the rates are shocking and that puts everyone in danger, and I know you want to keep the conversation to gay men only but sexuality isn't as straight forward as that for a lot of people so straight men and women are also at an increased danger right now too - a gay man with HIV isn't necessarily only going to pass it on to another gay man). And people can act irresponsibly in all aspects of life but we don't limit treatments to the majority because of those people. And it really doesn't matter that some drinkers may forget to take the pill, again it's missing the point completely that for the people who don't forget to take it, and act responsibly, it will have huge benefits (as well as like I say, to society as a whole by reducing the amount of HIV that's out there).

I'm not going to pretend that it isn't a problem that some gay men are spreading STD's by 'advertising' unsafe sex, it is and it pisses me off to be quite honest when I see people on Grindr etc doing it, but it's something that's a completely separate issue, and it should be addressed, but not by limiting treatments for diseases for them (and especially when it's going to have an adverse impact on everyone else). Personally I think the best way to deal with that is through sex-education in schools being inclusive of gay sex & relationships but that's something for another thread :laugh:

Niamh. 05-12-2016 10:26 AM

How is that Pill so expensive in the first place though?

Smithy 05-12-2016 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McGregrrrrrrrr (Post 9086052)
How is that Pill so expensive in the first place though?

Brexit

arista 06-12-2016 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McGregrrrrrrrr (Post 9086052)
How is that Pill so expensive in the first place though?


UK : 10,000 Fellas get it fee on our NHS


the rest is Supply and Demand
as normal

Livia 06-12-2016 01:24 PM

If people want this pill they should have to fund it themselves.


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