And I'm sorry Gemma, if this seems like I'm on a vendetta against you, but I really disagree with you on this issue.

It's not photoshopped... at all :bored: If you have the "original" I'd be pleased to see... it may be one of the only remaining photo's of this girl since she's now dead because of the business. :sad:

OMFG! That first picture is just disturbing!
These girls should be in hospital (recovering) rather than on the catwalk.

I have daughters and I worry what this instance by the fashion industry to use such unrealistically skinny models will do to them when they reach their teens.

How could any modeling agency think these models are attractive? Why would a clothing designer want her in their clothes. People at the fashion show aren't going to remember what she was wearing, they will only remember there appearance.

These girls look pathetic. There's no excuse for that kind of skinny. Any fashion industry idiot who thinks this girl is 'the look' is crazy. . And surely when a woman buys clothes she wants to know what they will look like on her not some underfed stick insect.

When a man takes a woman in his arms, he does not want to feel her skeleton. He wants to feel smooth skin and graceful curves.

Personally I think the fashion industry should start acting responsibly and stop using these models and the designers should start to produce clothes for real people.

Some of these girls look like they have just stepped out of Dachau, Terblinka or Auschwitz. In fact some of them had more meat on their bones and the ones that didn't were dead!

You may be happy to kid yourself but there is no way someone could still be standing being that skinny, these pictures are FAKES and were proven to be along with a bunch of other photos. These pictures are disguisting, the girls in them look like walking skeletons and i find it offensive people would photoshop pictures like that.

Designers prefer skinny girls to show off their clothes thats just the way it is. And no you don't have to be a size 0 where did you get that from? All the runway and photoshoot standard sample sizes are made in a size 8 to fit most models but there are smaller ones and larger ones as well. Some models that were 'accused' of being a size 0 have actually quoted themselves that they are no way near a size 0.

She's dead.... I did say in my post.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliana_Ramos

Please could you quote the source where it said they were fake, please?

I don't know how anyone can like seeing people so thin to show off their clothes. The pictures of ultra skinny models look awful and not "sexy" or "beautiful" at all. Ok it may cost less in fabric but I cannot see any other plus side. Whether the photos have been photoshopped or not doesn't take away the fact that she died aswell as her sister. The size 0 designers who have size 0 models are killing people. People look up to models sadly and think size 0 is a good thing when infact size 0 is being ill.

Gemma's comments are very disturning. In particular the matter of fact way she simply dimisses the whole debate. I wonder does she think that everybody is making it up ?

I've posted various facts to show that the girl in the first picture is now dead due to malnutrition caused by anorexia nervosa. She's not a "normal thin girl" as Gemma described her... she's now a normal dead girl.
She was a US size 4 (UK size 6)!
This is worrying....

Edit: And just to quote my source that she was US size 4: http://www.fashionmodeldirectory.com...s/eliana_ramos
:thumbs:

There's a theory that the fashion industry favours skinny models because it is dominated by gay male-designers and that is their idea of feminine beauty. What do people think?

I agree that pictures of the skeletal models in this thread are very disturbing.

Wow James, thats an interesting theory... I hadn't thought of it that way. Although I do know that many of the gay people I know see feminine beauty in curvy women - moreso than straight men!
Although I have to allow for cultural differences, because most of the fashion designers are also from Italy and America and values are completely different.

I think Baz's theory on this is the most accurate. The designers make the clothes as tiny as possible.

It might be also that designers don't want the models to actually be attractive because it would take the attention away from the clothes.

OMG, are those 2 pics of that model real? If they are then that is just sick. I can't believe people let them get that thin.

The skinny women modelling the clothes are different, contemporary, and controversial. Having these women in the designers clothes shows the clothes as being new, and contemporary - even slightly controversial.
It provides a label and an identity for the fashion industry. Thats my theory on why they use skinny models.

It is a very interesting idea. My cousin is a clothes designer, she is female, and designs real sized clothes for George. She would be disgusted by the idea of using models that are so skinny they are on the edge of death.

I think you might be right. They are designing womens clothes for boys.

Well the first woman is dead now. Gemma says they're fake but after numerous requests she hasn't presented the source to say they're fake. They could well be, but until I see they are - I'll believe they're real.
The bottom line is that she's dead for being that skinny now - bearing in mind she was a UK size 6 - which is bigger than the now desired size 0. :shocked:

I dont think anyone should get that thin. I think the thinest anyone should be allowed to go is like Nikki off BB7 and even she looked awfully skinny at times.

Oh my goodness, Thats just palin wrong! Gemma you can't think that being that skinny is attractive.

But it's like someone mentioned earlier James. If you were at a catwalk show, and the girl in that photo came out onto the runway, you would be so shocked by her body, you would not be looking at what she was wearing, unless you were a pretentious prick, like a lot of people in the fashion industry are.

Not you, of course.

I would never use a model like that!

That's a very interesting theory James, I hadn't even thought about that!

I also find it shocking that in the case of Sophie Dahl she burst onto the scenes and was a size 16 and 38DD bra-size, she defied the stick-thin modelling.

Everyone was amazed and thought that times were changing.... sadly she has now gone to the size of any model you see.

I am deeply disturbed by these pictures, and the concept as a whole. It's one thing wanting to shed bad habits and become healthy, quite another to resort to this and that too purely for the fashion industry!

[i]Eliana Ramos, 18, was found dead in her bedroom by her grandmother, with whom she was staying in Montevideo, the Uruguayan capital. She is believed to have suffered a heart attack. A full postmortem examination report has yet to be released but local reports suggested that Ms Ramos, who was taking part in Montevideo fashion week, suffered from “alimentary deficiency”. Her parents, who were on holiday at the time of her death, were said to be devastated.[i/]

Luisel Ramos, 22, collapsed and died on the catwalk during a fashion show in Montevideo last year. Eliana had just embraced her sister and wished her good luck in what was their first fashion show together.

Her father said afterwards that his daughter had been on a regime of lettuce and diet cola in an attempt to lose weight.



At 18 aswell.Its shocking and very very disturbing.