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Ruth 23-03-2007 02:31 PM

You're absolutely right Baz. Idiotic pathetic attempts to make out that he knows more than he does.

Sunny_01 23-03-2007 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by nodisharmony

They did have quite a bit of time together and from what I know and saw, I would strongly agree that love was very present.

We sometimes have to look at percentages.

I would hazard a guess, that the percentage that would confirm what I say is pretty high. 95% would be a fair percentage.

nodisharmony :angel:
I am sure that they do have people who thought it was genuine love between the 2 of them , everyone loves a love story! Having said that I question your statistics of 95%, where did this come from? what was your methodology that brought you to this conclusion! How did you carry out your statistical research?

I think that again is it sadly a case of waffle. You would like to think that 95% of people thought it was love when in fact she possibly used him to further her career and many people could think that - oh how about I throw in a 80% of people thought that !

nodisharmony 23-03-2007 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by Ruth
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Originally posted by nodisharmony
What I know and what I choose to divulge is up to me.
And as you refuse to divulge anything, it's pretty clear that you don't know anything.

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I can say that the evidence which is available to everybody is quite conclusive, but if you differ, then please do.
And what evidence would that be then?

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She was never actually racist and as she has got the best deal out of the three girls, since CBB Jan. I am sure that more people will forget it all.
She certainly has got the best deal out of her, Jade and Jo. But what do you mean, she was 'never racist'? Do you mean she was accidentally racist? Can you prove that she was never racist?
If I said I know Jade personally, would you believe me?

If I said I don't know Jade personally, would you believe me?

The answer to both those questions would be:- ???
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The Evidence that Danielle Lloyd & Teddy Sheringham having a past loving relationship, before CBB Jan. All points in the direction that "love" was real and there.

We even heard it in the Big Brother house.

Danielle cried a bit, too.
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Danielle Lloyd said offensive words and comments which appeared to some to have maybe racial-over-tones.

This is very true.

The word "Racism" is a very serious accusation.

This is not what we saw, was it?

nodisharmony 23-03-2007 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by BAZG
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[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony

1. What I know and what I choose to divulge is up to me.


2. She was never actually racist.

1. Of course. As you cannot say you actually know these people, then your views are just the same as the rest of us. I personally don't give a toss if you know Jade or Danielle or anyone else for that matter. Your findings are not based on fact.

2. Again, that is not fact but your opinion. It is like me saying Prince Phillip is not racist, when a lot of people actually think he is.

You are not the one here that decides what is right and what is wrong. That is not your decision. You are not god. We live in a democratic country you know. 50,000 people decided to vote and say it was racist. You cannot just dismiss that in one line. What gives you the right? And don't give me the bull again about the CPS' decision. If that's what you mean then say it in the first place. Let's have it correct for gods sake.
To base comments on fact, you need to be the person accused, Agreed?

However, the courts in this country convict and also acquit defendants on evidence given.

Witnesses get called, etc.. and Juries have to decide.

There can still be an error of doubt, but there has to be a vertict. One way or another.

What I personally know is neither-here-nor-there.

If you can't prove that Danielle Lloyd ever loved Teddy Sheringham, then don't ask me the opposite.
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If people think that Prince Phillip is racist, let them think that.

I am sure that there is forums where members will say that he isn't like that and shall give reasons.

I am stating many reasons within many posts, why, what, how, whatever, etc..

It is about studying the evidence closely and even more so, look at the argument on Youtube and really look closely.

The Newspapers can be a little evasive, you need to read between the lines.

Visit fan-sites about Danielle and Myspace.com, etc..

There is more out there than you think.
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I am not the one that decides what's right & wrong.

I am not God either :conf2: Glad you told me that :whistle:

50,000 people and also, they say, "There's an idiot born every minute"

I didn't make that saying up! It exists.

I am also, NOT saying, that the 50,000 people are idiots. I am saying, that many people just assume stuff from edited footage and get on the phone & on the net and start crying like babies over a reality show.

Jade, Danielle & Jo were oblivious to all of this, at the time.

Of course, the show goes on like usual and the maybe racial/offensive words & comments keep being aired, even after complaints!

The CPS did make a judgement and it is case closed, remember?

nodisharmony :angel:

Mrluvaluva 23-03-2007 04:06 PM

I don't know why I got sucked into this thread again, as all I get back is constant drivel. Time to stay away again folks. What a load of ball cocks!

Ruth 23-03-2007 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by nodisharmony
To base comments on fact, you need to be the person accused, Agreed?
Not necessarily.

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However, the courts in this country convict and also acquit defendants on evidence given.

Witnesses get called, etc.. and Juries have to decide.

There can still be an error of doubt, but there has to be a vertict. One way or another.
If there is not enough evidence, then they have to find Not Guilty. That is not the same as someone being innocent. What relevance does this have anyway? There is no court case.

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If you can't prove that Danielle Lloyd ever loved Teddy Sheringham, then don't ask me the opposite.
Okay - can you prove that 95% would agree with you that they loved one another.

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If people think that Prince Phillip is racist, let them think that.
Have you heard some of the comments he has made? Anyone with a brain cell would probably have to conclude that he is racist.

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I am sure that there is forums where members will say that he isn't like that and shall give reasons.

I am stating many reasons within many posts, why, what, how, whatever, etc..

It is about studying the evidence closely and even more so, look at the argument on Youtube and really look closely.

The Newspapers can be a little evasive, you need to read between the lines.
Waffle. If you have nothing to say, then say nothing. Don't try and make it look like something.

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I am not the one that decides what's right & wrong.
I'm glad you realise that. Because on some of your earlier posts you didn't seem to realise it.

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I am also, NOT saying, that the 50,000 people are idiots. I am saying, that many people just assume stuff from edited footage and get on the phone & on the net and start crying like babies over a reality show.
People were not crying like babies. What a patronising, rude thing to say.

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Jade, Danielle & Jo were oblivious to all of this, at the time.

Of course, the show goes on like usual and the maybe racial/offensive words & comments keep being aired, even after complaints!

The CPS did make a judgement and it is case closed, remember?
Pure rubbish. I am not explaining the CPS decision for the umpteenth time - you are obviously incapable of understanding it. It's probably not your fault.:pat:

Ruth 23-03-2007 04:20 PM

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Originally posted by nodisharmony
If I said I know Jade personally, would you believe me?

If I said I don't know Jade personally, would you believe me?

The answer to both those questions would be:- ???
If you would say one way or the other, yes I would believe you. But you refuse to say.

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The Evidence that Danielle Lloyd & Teddy Sheringham having a past loving relationship, before CBB Jan. All points in the direction that "love" was real and there.

We even heard it in the Big Brother house.
And what evidence would that be? I remember her saying that she loved spending his money. I remember her saying that she got with him after Miss GB, but then contradicting that when she was in the house.

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Danielle Lloyd said offensive words and comments which appeared to some to have maybe racial-over-tones.

This is very true.

The word "Racism" is a very serious accusation.

This is not what we saw, was it?
Yes it was.

nodisharmony 23-03-2007 04:24 PM

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Originally posted by Ruth
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Originally posted by nodisharmony
To base comments on fact, you need to be the person accused, Agreed?
Not necessarily.

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However, the courts in this country convict and also acquit defendants on evidence given.

Witnesses get called, etc.. and Juries have to decide.

There can still be an error of doubt, but there has to be a vertict. One way or another.
If there is not enough evidence, then they have to find Not Guilty. That is not the same as someone being innocent. What relevance does this have anyway? There is no court case.

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If you can't prove that Danielle Lloyd ever loved Teddy Sheringham, then don't ask me the opposite.
Okay - can you prove that 95% would agree with you that they loved one another.

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If people think that Prince Phillip is racist, let them think that.
Have you heard some of the comments he has made? Anyone with a brain cell would probably have to conclude that he is racist.

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I am sure that there is forums where members will say that he isn't like that and shall give reasons.

I am stating many reasons within many posts, why, what, how, whatever, etc..

It is about studying the evidence closely and even more so, look at the argument on Youtube and really look closely.

The Newspapers can be a little evasive, you need to read between the lines.
Waffle. If you have nothing to say, then say nothing. Don't try and make it look like something.

Visit fan-sites about Danielle and Myspace.com, etc..

There is more out there than you think.
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I am not the one that decides what's right & wrong.

I am not God either :conf2: Glad you told me that :whistle:

50,000 people and also, they say, "There's an idiot born every minute"

I didn't make that saying up! It exists.

I am also, NOT saying, that the 50,000 people are idiots. I am saying, that many people just assume stuff from edited footage and get on the phone & on the net and start crying like babies over a reality show.

Jade, Danielle & Jo were oblivious to all of this, at the time.

Of course, the show goes on like usual and the maybe racial/offensive words & comments keep being aired, even after complaints!

The CPS did make a judgement and it is case closed, remember?

nodisharmony :angel:
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Only Jade Goody, Danielle Lloyd, Jo O'Meara can really know how they feel. End of.............
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The relevance about court-cases, is due to what is being said, here and now.

You already said the "Not necassarily" comment above.

This says that if there is good evidence that says that Danielle does love Teddy, then it could be proven.

Or does it?

That counteracts the first question?
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The 95% which I gave is neither-here-nor-there.

I welcome your percentages.
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I have not really bothered about the Prince Phillip stuff.

I have Jade, Jo & Danielle on my mind on this forum and before.
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nodisharmony 23-03-2007 04:29 PM

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Originally posted by Sunny_01
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Originally posted by nodisharmony

They did have quite a bit of time together and from what I know and saw, I would strongly agree that love was very present.

We sometimes have to look at percentages.

I would hazard a guess, that the percentage that would confirm what I say is pretty high. 95% would be a fair percentage.

nodisharmony :angel:
I am sure that they do have people who thought it was genuine love between the 2 of them , everyone loves a love story! Having said that I question your statistics of 95%, where did this come from? what was your methodology that brought you to this conclusion! How did you carry out your statistical research?

I think that again is it sadly a case of waffle. You would like to think that 95% of people thought it was love when in fact she possibly used him to further her career and many people could think that - oh how about I throw in a 80% of people thought that !
95% is a fair judgement from myself

80% is a fair judgement from yourself

It is still debatable and I can see by the evidence, that is more than likely, that there was love.

What is Danielle to do now? regarding men, in your opinion?

Ruth 23-03-2007 04:29 PM

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Originally posted by nodisharmony
Only Jade Goody, Danielle Lloyd, Jo O'Meara can really know how they feel. End of.............
Then how come you have been saying 'Jade Goody would think this', and 'Jade Goody will do that'? 'Jade Goody will be worried', 'Jade Goody will be thinking...'

As you say, only Jade knows what she thinks or feels. So can I take it that you will stop making such comments now?

Kyoushu 23-03-2007 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by BAZG
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Originally posted by Ruth
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Originally posted by nodisharmony

What I know and what I choose to divulge is up to me.
And as you refuse to divulge anything, it's pretty clear that you don't know anything.


Games Ruth. Games, games, games. Silly little pathetic, childish, idiotic game playing.
There is really no need for insults bazg, after all it is against the forum rules.

I think what nodisharmony is trying to say is that he thinks Dani and Teddy were in love because they seem like a nice couple. They tell people they are in love, so it is fair to say they are. Why would they lie?
Plus, if nodisharmony doesnt want to reveal any sources, there is no reason why he should. Not everybody has to explain every single thing they say.

I think everybody would like to see dani find love again after everything people have put her through and hopefully jade will find the same. we have all had our fun during big brother but now it is time to let these girls live a normal life again and stop hounding them and hoping they feel bad about things.

GiRTh 23-03-2007 04:51 PM

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Originally posted by Kyoushu

There is really no need for insults bazg, after all it is against the forum rules.

I think what nodisharmony is trying to say is that he thinks Dani and Teddy were in love because they seem like a nice couple. They tell people they are in love, so it is fair to say they are. Why would they lie?
Plus, if nodisharmony doesnt want to reveal any sources, there is no reason why he should. Not everybody has to explain every single thing they say.

I think everybody would like to see dani find love again after everything people have put her through and hopefully jade will find the same. we have all had our fun during big brother but now it is time to let these girls live a normal life again and stop hounding them and hoping they feel bad about things.
Do you know nodisharmony. Are you aware of his previous work on another forum?

James 23-03-2007 04:57 PM

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Originally posted by Kyoushu
.....after all it is against the forum rules.
As is re-registering to get around forum bans, Hitman.

Kyoushu 23-03-2007 05:04 PM

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Originally posted by James
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Originally posted by Kyoushu
.....after all it is against the forum rules.
As is re-registering to get around forum bans, Hitman.
I can assure you, I am not nodisharmony. its a promise.:xyxwave:

Mrluvaluva 23-03-2007 05:11 PM

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Originally posted by James
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Originally posted by Kyoushu
.....after all it is against the forum rules.
As is re-registering to get around forum bans, Hitman.

Lol. Again!

James 23-03-2007 05:11 PM

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Originally posted by Kyoushu
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Originally posted by James
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Originally posted by Kyoushu
.....after all it is against the forum rules.
As is re-registering to get around forum bans, Hitman.
I can assure you, I am not nodisharmony. its a promise.:xyxwave:
Except your IP address is the same as a banned user. The_Hitman.

Stop re-registering.

Kyoushu 23-03-2007 05:29 PM

I see. Well done Sherlock. You have excelled yourself once again. Looks like it's back to the drawing board.

nodisharmony 23-03-2007 05:35 PM

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Originally posted by Ruth
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Originally posted by nodisharmony
Only Jade Goody, Danielle Lloyd, Jo O'Meara can really know how they feel. End of.............
Then how come you have been saying 'Jade Goody would think this', and 'Jade Goody will do that'? 'Jade Goody will be worried', 'Jade Goody will be thinking...'

As you say, only Jade knows what she thinks or feels. So can I take it that you will stop making such comments now?
State some examples Ruth and I shall explain, why I said this or thinks that.

It is difficult when you miss pieces out of a Jigsaw.


nodisharmony :angel:

James 23-03-2007 05:37 PM

This is not a Jade Goody thread.

nodisharmony 23-03-2007 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by Ruth
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Originally posted by nodisharmony
[I actually say many useful points.

Sometimes in depth and sometimes not. It depends on the circumstances and you need to remember that there are more people looking at these posts than you think?
I've never seen anyone actually agree with you or even admit that you've made a valid point. Apart from our new member Kyoushu of course.

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Some people just like to read, but never post, Agreed?
I wouldn't know, seeing as if they don't post, we don't know if they are reading posts or not.

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Danielle Lloyd will choose who she wants, when it comes to relationships.
I thought you said you weren't psychic? Never mind dear:pat:
If forum members don't agree with me within this topic or any other, is not important Ruth.

Popularity contests are not part of the debate.
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I was talking about people reading posts, within topics, but not posting themselves.

If you look at the Big Brother forum main page, go to the bottom of the screen, you can see the number of forum members who are online, then, there is guests, who are not members, but are looking in anyway.

That is the point I was trying to raise.

Big Brother Is WAtcHIng over us, Ha! Ha! :laugh::laugh:
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Ask any girl you know, whether they have the right to choose who they wish to go out with.

See what they say & then look at my comment, within that post.

Danielle will choose who she wants, End of...............


nodisharmony :angel:

James 23-03-2007 05:55 PM

Discuss the housemates and Big Brother instead of forum users. It's going round in circles this.

It might help if you could seperate the quoted text and write your response after each quoted block. Use tags. Like this...

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point 1
response to point 1

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point 2
response to point 2

Just a thought...

nodisharmony 23-03-2007 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by James
Discuss the housemates and Big Brother instead of forum users. It's going round in circles this.

It might help if you could seperate the quoted text and write your response after each quoted block. Use tags. Like this...

Quote:

point 1
response to point 1

Quote:

point 2
response to point 2

Just a thought...
Ruth & myself have broken things down a bit, by Q & A sessions being split up into smaller posts.

It is easier to read! & moderate, James
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Ruth did what you suggested today & myself and her had a massive Q & A which took up most of the page on Monday.

Things are improving bit by bit by bit.

All the best, nodisharmony :angel:

Sunny_01 23-03-2007 06:09 PM

ok so now you are the authority on how we Moderate things - great I am so happy to hear that Nodis

nodisharmony 23-03-2007 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by Sunny_01
ok so now you are the authority on how we Moderate things - great I am so happy to hear that Nodis
I know that on Monday, when Ruth & I did that massive Q&A debate, she did exactly what James has suggested just now and I did things in my usual way, it still mounted up as a massive debate.

I know things are getting better and I expect more interesting debates to follow. We are all minimising these Q&A's and asking & answering less questions, to make things easier for you.

I have just tried a new method of posting on a different topic just now, it should be easier, slightly unauthodox though, but a happy compromise.

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The problem with this Danielle Lloyd's night out with Bianca, is, that when Danielle is having a great night out, she will probably be drinking a lot.

Everything she says to Bianca, no doubt will get back to Paul Gascoigne.

Then, Paul might tell Teddy, whoops!!

More gossip....

When will it end...

Mrluvaluva 23-03-2007 08:37 PM

Ahh nodis. Your friend was a fake. I hear those immortal words from Jades lips now.........................


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