That is the first time I have sensed a weakness in you!

Just for a second, I thought you wanted me to stumble on this subject of "Racism"?

Not at all. I can smell bullshit a mile off. I just use humour to purvey this. Did I confuse you?

I guess it was Mr Hyde for a second and now it is the good Dr Jekyl.

Welcome back..

sadly, for me, it is bed-time :sleep::sleep::sleep:

I'll be back later.

I never get to Mr Hyde nodis. You of all people should know that. Goodnight.

Are you two still arguing..

Seek help.. :tongue:

Help! We are just discussing. Not arguing at all. Eh nodis?

I see this carried on long after I hit my pit!!

You see the point I make Nodis is that young people like the one you mentioned are culturally unaware, they can be forgiven for their knee jerk reactions because she will learn with time (or maybe not because her family are obviously racist)

As adults though we have a responsibility to be aware of each others culture so as not to offend people.

Ok. You have a shop owned by a Pakistani. Is it racist, part time racist, accidental racist or not racist to say you "are going to the **** shop"

I say racist. You?

That is right MrLuvaLuva

It can make a change to just discuss in a friendly way.:thumbs2:

Hi Sunny,

I understand what you are saying Sunny.

In an ideal world, everything should happen the way you say.

Nobody should say anything which can offend another person, but they do in real life.

On a forum, it is easy to say that people are perfect and do everything okay and all your friends and family and people you associate with are all perfect in the racial & offensive department.

But, how many actually are that way?
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Getting back to this girl, who is indeed only 13 and you are right Sunny, she is young and naive.

Also, you are right, when you say that it is wrong for the parents to take very little notice that their daughter said that racial comment.

But, when you have a 13 year old daughter and you obviously love her and perhaps you have had a stressful day at work and come home and find out that another 13 year old lad at school has hit your daughter and she has a bruise on her arm from this assault, then all you see is RED.

Sadly, in a moment of anger, her mother is only concerned for her daughter and could not care less about what her daughter has said in that circumstance.

It doesn't make her mother a racist person.

a racist person is against people of another race or maybe skin colour completely.

This is where my definitions of "Part-Time-Racism" & "Accidental Racism" comes into play.

If you cannot accept this argument, that is naturally you priviledge to say that, as you are in a position, where political correctness and self-popularity is important.

So, I shall accept your answer which you and others agree together on & I hope we can debate your reasons in a nice and friendly debate.

Sadly Sunny, I shall have to dis-include, Dr43%er & Spacebandit from this little discussion, as they only have negativity and personal vendetta's on their mind, but I know you know and understand.

All the best, nodisharmony :angel:

Shame that. I was sure that I asked a perfectly reasonable question to no member in particular and with out using any insults. This question was to gauge where people thought certain terms in certain situations would be placed in the list. I am sorry if for some reason you have taken this as a personal slight but it was not just asked for you.

I can only assume by your reaction you have something to hide or you think I will not like your reply?

I say that is definitely a racist remark. There was an article in The Metro a couple of weeks ago. The title for a piece used the word "china man" in it. A letter to the paper complained it was racist, but somebody disagreed with it. I think it is racist, because you would actually refer to him as a chinese man and not a china man. I am an English man, not an England man am I not? Chinaman was a word actually used as a racist term.

Personaly vendetta ?
I never met you before you started posting here, and for me disagreeing with you about Jade being the heir apparent to Mother Theresa you decide to get all patronising and insulting.

I found out about you via Google Cache, its very easy to do, anyone can do it, but you prefer conspiracies, it obviously fits in with your divorced view of reality.

Which is how I can now relate your opinions here and your posts in general by a past posting history.

What did I find on Google Cache ?

I found you berating immigrants for being treated better than what you call the "white english", and being more equal in law..I screengrabbed that page and you laughably and cowardly and claimed it was fake. You are too gutless to stand by your own words,

Accidental racist ?
Part Time Racist ?
Full Time Racist ?

indeed your problem over it is clearly due to petulance, via Google Caches I also discovered that as a moderator at JadeGoodyonline you would change peoples posts if you didn't like what they said - no wonder you threw your teddy in the corner here when confronted with your own words, missing the days you could have just edited at will, no doubt

In other posts I found you changed a user name in replies from "Joey Da Dog" to "Joey Da ***"

Accidental racist ?
Part Time Racist ?
Full Time Racist ?


More than one instance - I screengrabbed a number of different posts.

You are in my opinion a racist, full, not part time, and multiple instances clearly show that its not accidental and I can use your own words to back up that assertion.

when caught out bullys blame the victim - they are cowards

You have learned well from your heroine Jade Goody, who also made multiple racist comments on CBB and showed us she is a racist.

I cannot imagine being so cowardly as to deny anything I said or wrote.

How does it feel ?

*Quote*I never met you before you started posting here*Quote*


You are right in one sense, you weren't called "Spacebandit", you were called "socialthought"

Maybe there are some screengrabs of what you said on that forum which far out-weigh anything that anyone could imagine an Administrator could ever put up with.

But I'm not arguing with you anymore.

You have people above forum members on your side.

and you just said that you want to put a bag over Jade's head within the Jade-Boob topic.

wishing harm to a past housemate is very bad.

I wish no one any harm, only goodness

nodisharmony :angel:

something's fishy, lolll...on a more serious note though I must agree with you Nodish is a coward and a racist and there have been several instances where he has denied saying something he has actually said....and if he is unable to argue back to a point you have made he either ignores it and or he get's nasty...he seems to be very much like jade, a hypocrite, liar, and a fake.

That was to protect him if his bag fell off so he would not see her face. Nothing to do with harming her. But you knew that.

Oh I see! I must have misjudged the situation, NOT!!

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Catatonia is not a person,

it is a group.

Ok...

I shall keep reminding you both.

On the subject of racism...

I have never used the name Sociathought. A risible ploy by you to try and get mud to stick.
Though it does not suprise me in the slightest that you should ascribe a name of someone else you disagreed with.
That is how sociopaths work.

and your claim that I stated in another thread that I wish to do Jade Goody harm - that is a blatant and untrue lie which comes as no suprise and now explains your denial of the screebgrab I posted. You are a congenital liar

The comment for those who havent seen it on another thread, which Nodisharmony claims is a threat against Jade Goody is this




You are an utterly shameless liar, and completely stupid as your lies are so easy to disprove.

Do you know something MrLuvaLuva

I don't understand you at all.

I really, really don't.

I want you to look at that post that you have written and try and make some sort of sense of it all.

You waffle on about Chinese men and at the same time, you can sit down in your nice comfortable chair and watch CBB Jan. and watch the American actor Dirk Benedict being bullied right before your eyes.

I notice how little everybody notices this. He is an American, who came to England and appeared on this BB show and if you take the trouble to click on Youtube.com and look at the footage of how everybody started to make fun of him, including his past Cancer and his accent.

But you still have the audacity to just ignore this completely and waffle on about China.

It beggars belief.
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Right, you want to be scared to ********* death!!

Are you sure that you want to know this MrLuvaLuva ?
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Let us go back, just for a second to the early 80's

There was a man called Richard Branson, you may have heard of him?

He is going to sponser Big Brother 8

You may have heard a whisper or two.

Once upon a time, there was two comedians called:- Peter Cook & Dudley Moore They invented a type of comedy called "Satire"

Maybe you know it? or not?

Anyway, in the early 80's Peter Cook came up with an idea?

Derek & Clive

Why not go beyond anything which has ever been done before and start swearing and be as nasty as anyone could ever be ever. Let's be terribly racist beyond belief and as nasty to religion and take comedy to a level which has never been seen before EVER.

But, there is one important factor, "Virgin Records" & "Richard Branson"

He saw this and jumped on it immediately.

I don't know whether you know the albums.
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Derek & Clive Live

Come Again

Ad Nauseum
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All on Virgin records and very much Richard Branson. and very much in the shops today in the year 2007, in case you forgot?

I shall add a couple of Youtube links for your entertainment.

Most of it is very rude, but, amongst it, is quite racial.

So, What can you make from this? You can always say that it is comedy and at that time it was acceptable humour? Is that a fair reason?

It was still racism and Richard Branson is laughing and is appearing also in these videos.

Racism was being said and it is very real.

You are not excusing anybody, by what you and your new friends are saying?? MrLuvaLuva Make your minds up!!
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Richard Branson & Virgin Media have decided to sponser Big Brother 8.

Car phone warehouse have opted to stear clear. Nobody else bothered or wanted to know.

Suddenly, the man from the studio, where Peter Cook & Dudley Moore were airing their nasty swear words and racism in their satirical way, comes along and says YES immediately.

Then MrLuvaLuva, by your over-scrutiny, you should look upon this as a decision, by a man who found all this racial nastiness so funny at the time, knowing full well that it may offend many people and I know that it certainly did at the time. More than you'd ever now!!

Then MrLuvaLuva, you must draw the only judgement that you could ever draw, by saying, that, A racist person has decided to sponser a show that is happy to display racism from three racist young women and not edit out any racist words and comments within the Big Brother house.

Is that something for you to think about?

I can see you rushing to his defence, because you are scared to say what you really feel.

Also, if he changes his mind, it could mean trouble for Endemol and that is something you don't want to cause.

However, you need to save face too.

So, I just can't give you any clues to sort out what you have got yourself into, by being so politically correct and not admitting that it is easy to fall foul to accidental or part-time racism when it can come along.

here are the Youtube links:-

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sWO0TT3_0ao

http://youtube.com/results?search_query=derek+%26+clive


nodisharmony :angel:

Is it because Baz is Black?

Don't you find Monster Munch incredibly more-ish... ?

I do. I just had to have a 2nd packet. :bouncy:

Did I rattle you nodis? lol

I WAFFLE ON! That's a laugh!

Hahahahahahahahaaha