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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 9169199)

God Eden Lake is gross, both in the literal sense and in its contribution to a culture of working class youths being constructed as the folk devil of the middle class

(sorry, idk why I'm in this thread cause I hate horror films but I was forced to watch that so had to comment)

A-Level Sociology teas

Lights out is crap and I haven't seen the other one

Scott stOP SHADING GOOD HORROR FILMS!!

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Originally Posted by Jason. (Post 9169225)

A-Level Sociology teas

Media, actually :wink:

The whole thing is just vile, even down to the small details like the radio discussion that's going on in the car about the state of the education system and 'Broken Britain'...ew :yuk:

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 9169243)

They link tbh, iconic subjects.

Anyway stop looking into it too much and taking a low-budget British film so seriously :nono:

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Originally Posted by Jason. (Post 9169230)

Scott stOP SHADING GOOD HORROR FILMS!!

i liked the green room

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Originally Posted by Jason. (Post 9169254)

They link tbh, iconic subjects.

Anyway stop looking into it too much and taking a low-budget British film so seriously :nono:

True!

It's hard not to when that's the lens you watched the film through though :laugh: in all seriousness at a subconscious level it does play into people's ideas about the 'chav' culture and who and what to fear. As much as I loved it, something like Little Britain is guilty of the very same thing

But anyway, I realise Jake only wants a film recommendation, so I shall leave it there :joker:

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 9169199)

Welp I disagree. It's not that deep.

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Originally Posted by That Girl (Post 9169207)

eden lake is part of the torture porn genre imo so it's automatically garbage

Lmao how? Ok, sure, they set the wee boy on fire but I wouldn't put it in the same category as the likes of Saw and Hostel.

Don't breathe isngreat, lights out is ****ing tragic

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Originally Posted by Babayaro. (Post 9169298)

Welp I disagree. It's not that deep.

It is when you look at it closely. This review I found does a pretty good job.

You only have to see this review in the Mail to see what I mean too:

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It's a thoroughly credible set-up and the process of escalation whereby Jenny and Steve alienate, then anger these feral youths until they're ready to stab, torture and even burn them to death is worryingly authentic.

Unlike most horror films, in which the heroes steer themselves into danger by their own stupidity, Jenny and Steve behave with complete plausibility and a tragically unrequited sense of kindness and social responsibility.

Eden Lake delivers plenty of tension and vicarious excitement. But it's also willing to say what other films have been too scared or politically correct to mention: the true horrors we fear day to day are not supernatural bogeymen or monsters created by scientists. They're our own youth.

Uncaring or absentee parents are the true villains, mostly unseen until the unpleasant end, but an implied presence throughout.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...#ixzz4WQqZHOOs

There's no attempt at character development on the sides of the antagonists either, no explanation or implication of any social factors that may have led to their behaviour, just a very one dimensional, stereotypical portrayal of working class youths (or rather 'chavs'), positioning them as people to be feared. Compare that to something like Attack the Block (sorry it's the only film I'm used to comparing it with :hehe: This is England would be another great example, but it's not horror) which does go into the backgrounds of the gang, and the class prejudices ingrained in Eden Lake are as clear as day.

The whole thing is gross

Lights out 5/10
Dont breathe 9/10

Source: my personal ratings on imdb

You do raise some good points to be fair :clap2:

But that still doesn't put me off the film, sorry. It's still iconic!

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Originally Posted by Babayaro. (Post 9169467)

You do raise some good points to be fair :clap2:

But that still doesn't put me off the film, sorry. It's still iconic!

Oh I can understand why people would like it if they like horror, I just think it's good for people to be aware of the social context which these things exist in :laugh:

Like I mentioned in passing earlier, I loved Little Britain and still do, but Vicky Pollard as a caricature for example is guilty of much the same thing

(Eden Lake was the most disgusting film I've ever seen btw. I genuinely felt violated after it finished).

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9169538)

(Eden Lake was the most disgusting film I've ever seen btw. I genuinely felt violated after it finished).

try "a serbian film" :worry:

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Originally Posted by That Girl (Post 9169557)

try "a serbian film" :worry:

Sounds cute i love foreign films

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Originally Posted by That Girl (Post 9169557)

try "a serbian film" :worry:

I'll never watch that.

I heard a newborn gets raped in it? :omgno:

Eden Lake was gory and brutal but I don't have a problem with heavy gore in films if they don't take anything away from the storyline and actually serve a purpose. It's those films that just rely on the use of excessive blood and gore for the sake of it like the Saw sequels that annoy me.

ok so I just finished Don't Breathe & y'all were right, I am SHOOK

I also watched Lights Out and again, I should have listened :laugh: awful film

Lights Out: 6-6.5/10 (average movie)
Don't Breathe: 8-8.5/10 (very good)

Never seen Eden Lake.

A Serbian Film is probably the most disturbing movie ever. I watched it with a bunch of friends a while ago after someone suggested it, which made it kinda funny with the reactions and all, but it's sooo gross/twisted and also just not a well put together movie in general. 2/10

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 9169454)

It is when you look at it closely. This review I found does a pretty good job.

You only have to see this review in the Mail to see what I mean too:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...#ixzz4WQqZHOOs

There's no attempt at character development on the sides of the antagonists either, no explanation or implication of any social factors that may have led to their behaviour, just a very one dimensional, stereotypical portrayal of working class youths (or rather 'chavs'), positioning them as people to be feared. Compare that to something like Attack the Block (sorry it's the only film I'm used to comparing it with :hehe: This is England would be another great example, but it's not horror) which does go into the backgrounds of the gang, and the class prejudices ingrained in Eden Lake are as clear as day.

The whole thing is gross

It sounds like it was written on Tibb serious debates :joker: