The report does say the muggings took place "as they left the shop". That is all I can tell you.

What does McDonalds staff following you down the street have to do with anything. Oh right…that was part of the humorous scenario you thought up earlier. It has nothing to do with this.

How do you know what McDonald security are there for? Can you confirm that if someone were mugged directly outside a McDonalds the security would not try to apprehend the muggers? You’re reaching in an effort to save you argument.

Can’t answer your final question, that the problem with speculation

McDonald's I go to don't have security. Lagging behind!

My point was that if Game did have security, how long are they responsible for you? They can not follow all their customers round town. If McDonalds door staff are not there to protect McDonalds property, staff and patrons within the shop, what are they there for? With regards as to would they help someone being mugged. I don't know. But would they be able to help someone who has walked 5 mins away? I doubt it. As I say, we don't know where the mugging took place exactly. In Leicester where I am they would have had staff on the door. But they would not be able to help if I was round the corner and out of sight.

Once again i am not saying they deserve it. But I just don't see how it can be Game's or Sony's fault. Blame the muggers.

I think the level of security is not all that relevant. What is important to me, and I'm not referring to the doc, is the attitude of people who just aren't 'into' games consoles. That was the point of my original post. They'd be outraged if the subject was crash dieting or the effect of the size zero model and people took such an apathetic attitude.

For the record i am in to gaming. Not in a huge way, well not £425 in to it.

But i would say the same if it was a new bike, watch, plasma, any expensive item you were walking around town in the same situation so people know what you have. It has nothing to do with gaming.

I already got one.

Any good? What are you running it in to?

Yeah. I mugged Angel. (Sorry I couldn't resist). I am sorry. I am sorry.

I'm not having a go at you. Its just that I read the first few posts and was outraged by the lack of sympathy that was shown by people who just weren't into gaming. It was appalling.

Lmao! :laugh: Poor Angel.

I am not into gaming and am one of those who think it is madness to be out at midnight to get a games console. I never once said that people deserve to be mugged though! I feel for any victim of crime. I just think that the responsibility lies with the muggers. We also have to acknowledge that we have a responsibility to our own safety.

That all said and done it's only my opinion and that certainly isnt meant to be gospel! we all look at things differently.

That's my whole point though Sunny, just because you're not into it you don't seem to understand why other people are. I personally am not into Ice Hockey but respect that other may be into it . I think a woman has the right to damn well do what she wants to her body, but I'm sympathetic to the other arguments too.

Do you see my point?

Did you read my last sentence Girth - I think that you will see I said it is only my own opinion and that I dont feel it is gospel! I think that acknowledges that I dont think mine is the only opinion or that it is the right one! it is purely and simply mine!

Of course I read your last sentence. What are you trying to imply?

My point is that I wouldn't post if all I had to post was - I'm not into this so I'm not bothered. That's all I'm trying to say.

well as everyone else is find of saying this is an open forum and I will post my opinions in any thread I do so desire and should be able to do so without being jumped on by you. I implied nothing just that I thought I had made myself clear in my previous post.

Sorry did I do something to upset you??

The point I made was that I, personally, would'nt comment if I had nothing to say. You, obviously, are different. I've got no problem with it I was just pointing it out.

Kill The PS3's !!!!!

:dog:

Has anyone got one yet?

Nope you did nothing to upset me I dont let forum talk upset me as a general rule!

I did have something to say its just happens that it isnt something you agree with or think of as important - so hey thats life we cant all agree that we each have a point of view that might be valid.

On this other geeky forum I'm a member of - people are saying wait. The people who have one aren't very happy because as of yet there is not much content to play on it to permit the price they paid. Thats the general thought across most people with one.

Here's my opinion:

As a female, I am always very aware of my personal safety. If I am late-night shopping (which is rare, cuz I hate shopping), then I try to make sure that I will be able to get from the store to the car safely. I don't park in places that are known to be "dodgy".

I don't think these people deserved to be robbed. Nobody deserves to be robbed. I also don't think it has anything to do with what they bought or how much they paid for it.

However, if you go to a late night opening, then it's only sensible to make sure that you will be able to get your goods home safely. Anyone going to Game that night would be well aware that they would be leaving with a carrier bag (emblazoned with the shop logo) containing around £500 - £600 of goods. So, you have to ask yourself, was it sensible for them to just stroll up the deserted high street?

If I wished to purchase the PS3 at that hour, then I would either make sure I had people with me, or that I could park near the store. In the event of none of those being an option, then I would use my mobile phone to call a taxi from inside the store, where the staff could ensure my safety.

The staff/security at these stores can not take responsibility for anything that happens once the customer leaves the store. To suggest they can is ludicrous.