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Livia 08-02-2017 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9210622)
You quoted me, I was just being polite.

Haha... right.

Brillopad 08-02-2017 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamie89 (Post 9210616)
He's working/volunteering in a public place, it's not other people's responsibility to make sure they don't hear him, it's his responsibility to make sure that he isn't heard (if he did make racist remarks, or better still just not make them in the first place).

We don't even know any remarks he did make were 'racist' as it is often about perception and over sensitivity from some.

If most were as sensitive as a minority seem to be we would not have put up with Islamic preachers spouting their hate on British streets. In any Islamic country anyone doing that wouldn't have lived to tell the tale.

You cannot police opinion simply because it doesn't agree with your own.

Kizzy 08-02-2017 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9210624)
Haha... right.

Left :smug:

Livia 08-02-2017 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9210630)
Left :smug:

Are we marching?

Crimson Dynamo 08-02-2017 11:29 AM

I think it perhaps boils down to


Fred: I think we need tighter controls on immigration as too many are arriving at the moment and we have no idea who they are or in what number?


Marjorie: You vile nazi racist brexit pig i am going to report you for a hate crime

Kizzy 08-02-2017 11:35 AM

Or .... it's silly click bait and I don't know why I'm wasting my time discussing it.

Jamie89 08-02-2017 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9210619)
of course it is, if i am in a public place i of course try at all times not to listen to private convos, its normal

:umm2:

Hearing someone make a remark is a bit different to intentionally trying to listen into a private conversation. You can't stop yourself from hearing something :unsure:

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9210625)
We don't even know any remarks he did make were 'racist' as it is often about perception and over sensitivity from some.

If most were as sensitive as a minority seem to be we would not have put up with Islamic preachers spouting their hate on British streets. In any Islamic country anyone doing that wouldn't have lived to tell the tale.

You cannot police opinion simply because it doesn't agree with your own.

That's true but I was just commenting on the principle of what you were saying more than anything else, if he's working for a company (even if it's not paid) he's representing them and anything he says will impact the company's reputation, so if he wants to make racist remarks, and especially if they're 'loud offensive remarks', then he shouldn't be doing it while in that position. You say you can't police opinion but that's not what's happened, he's entitled to his opinion but the company have a right to manage how they're perceived, if his opinion is bigoted then he just needs to make sure he's not voicing it while he's representing them.

Crimson Dynamo 08-02-2017 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamie89 (Post 9210646)
Hearing someone make a remark is a bit different to intentionally trying to listen into a private conversation. You can't stop yourself from hearing something :unsure:
.

Yes but most people know that as the conversation is not for them that they may be missing the context etc

Its not like a drunk woman on a bus shouting death to ***** to the whole bus for 10 minutes

user104658 08-02-2017 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9210637)
I think it perhaps boils down to


Fred: I think we need tighter controls on immigration as too many are arriving at the moment and we have no idea who they are or in what number?


Marjorie: You vile nazi racist brexit pig i am going to report you for a hate crime

Or a clockwinding old fart has been reading the tabloids every morning and was understandably mislead into thinking that "racism is OK again hooray!" and felt bolstered to sound off in public, whilst acting as a representative of a larger body (paid or otherwise), to stroke his prejudice.

Crimson Dynamo 08-02-2017 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9210649)
Or a clockwinding old fart has been reading the tabloids every morning and was understandably mislead into thinking that "racism is OK again hooray!" and felt bolstered to sound off in public, whilst acting as a representative of a larger body (paid or otherwise), to stroke his prejudice.

unlikely as the Trust has said zero in its defence when asked by many media agencies. We have the account of the man and to date not one single person including the person who reported him have come forward with any alternatives to what the man said

Tom4784 08-02-2017 11:51 AM

I refuse to believe his version of events, If he actually said what he said then no one would have cared. He obviously said something way worse, got caught out and has now run off to the DM to get sympathy from people who are desperate for reasons to complain about political correctness and how they can't be openly racist without judgement any more.

Kizzy 08-02-2017 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9210652)
unlikely as the Trust has said zero in its defence when asked by many media agencies. We have the account of the man and to date not one single person including the person who reported him have come forward with any alternatives to what the man said

'Members of the trust interviewed a number of witnesses about the incident and decided to ban Mr Walker from those parts of the station it operates and rents from Network Rail.

The trust said Mr Walker, who the trust claims refused to attend the meeting at which his fate was decided, has since refused to wind the clock up.

Mr Walker has been given the right to go into the station to get the tools to maintain the clock without having to go into trust buildings and he is not doing it,” said Mr Crowther. “The clock not being wound up is his personal decision and nothing to do with the trust.”

user104658 08-02-2017 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9210661)
'Members of the trust interviewed a number of witnesses about the incident and decided to ban Mr Walker from those parts of the station it operates and rents from Network Rail.

The trust said Mr Walker, who the trust claims refused to attend the meeting at which his fate was decided, has since refused to wind the clock up.

Mr Walker has been given the right to go into the station to get the tools to maintain the clock without having to go into trust buildings and he is not doing it,” said Mr Crowther. “The clock not being wound up is his personal decision and nothing to do with the trust.”

Wanted free reign to "air his (racist) views". Wasn't allowed. Threw tantrum.

Sounds about right for a snowflake DM reader.

Jamie89 08-02-2017 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9210647)
Yes but most people know that as the conversation is not for them that they may be missing the context etc

Its not like a drunk woman on a bus shouting death to ***** to the whole bus for 10 minutes

And most people watch what they say in public places for that same reason, but if it happens that a racist remark is made and someone overhears it and is offended, then it's not the fault of the person who heard it, it's the fault of the person who said it.

Brillopad 08-02-2017 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9210667)
Wanted free reign to "air his (racist) views". Wasn't allowed. Threw tantrum.

Sounds about right for a snowflake DM reader.

Where's that roll eyes smilie when you want it!!!

Crimson Dynamo 08-02-2017 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9210667)
Wanted free reign to "air his (racist) views". Wasn't allowed. Threw tantrum.

Sounds about right for a snowflake DM reader.

how do you know which newspaper he takes?

user104658 08-02-2017 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9210673)
Where's that roll eyes smilie when you want it!!!

https://s30.postimg.org/k28w8zsdt/6e3b6.gif


... No idea where the smilie you're looking for is though.

user104658 08-02-2017 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9210677)
how do you know which newspaper he takes?

I know a DM reader when I see one, he just has that sort of face.

Crimson Dynamo 08-02-2017 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9210683)
I know a DM reader when I see one, he just has that sort of face.


He is probably a nazi too, that clock has a very Germanic look

:suspect:

Livia 08-02-2017 01:32 PM

I do hope that if I'm ever tried by jury, no one from TiBB is ever serving. I hate it when people make conclusions with absolutely nothing to go on but a bit of hearsay in a newspaper, and that's enough to damn anyone apparently. Already this man has been tried, found guilty and is on the way to the metaphorical gallows.

"I'm offended" is fast becoming the national motto.

Brillopad 08-02-2017 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9210637)
I think it perhaps boils down to


Fred: I think we need tighter controls on immigration as too many are arriving at the moment and we have no idea who they are or in what number?


Marjorie: You vile nazi racist brexit pig i am going to report you for a hate crime

Sounds about right.

Northern Monkey 08-02-2017 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9210733)
I do hope that if I'm ever tried by jury, no one from TiBB is ever serving. I hate it when people make conclusions with absolutely nothing to go on but a bit of hearsay in a newspaper, and that's enough to damn anyone apparently. Already this man has been tried, found guilty and is on the way to the metaphorical gallows.

"I'm offended" is fast becoming the national motto.

:laugh:

I think it's the millennial motto of the west tbh.Not just Britain.

user104658 08-02-2017 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9210733)
I do hope that if I'm ever tried by jury, no one from TiBB is ever serving. I hate it when people make conclusions with absolutely nothing to go on but a bit of hearsay in a newspaper, and that's enough to damn anyone apparently. Already this man has been tried, found guilty and is on the way to the metaphorical gallows.

"I'm offended" is fast becoming the national motto.

Yet amazingly, you have absolutely NO problem with LT branding the others involved "vile" and intimating that they are liars, based on... What was it... Oh. Not even a bit of hearsay in a newspaper. Absolutely nothing in fact.

Crimson Dynamo 08-02-2017 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9210860)
Yet amazingly, you have absolutely NO problem with LT branding the others involved "vile" and intimating that they are liars, based on... What was it... Oh. Not even a bit of hearsay in a newspaper. Absolutely nothing in fact.

incorrect its is the actual statement from the poor accused Clockwinder


so not hearsay but from the very mouth of the innocent 71 year old man:nono:

Niamh. 08-02-2017 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9210733)
I do hope that if I'm ever tried by jury, no one from TiBB is ever serving. I hate it when people make conclusions with absolutely nothing to go on but a bit of hearsay in a newspaper, and that's enough to damn anyone apparently. Already this man has been tried, found guilty and is on the way to the metaphorical gallows.

"I'm offended" is fast becoming the national motto.

To be fair though the same can equally be said for those supporting the man one of which actually started this thread and opened it up for discussion and reached his conclusions about what was or was not said :shrug:


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