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Smithy 25-02-2017 02:56 PM

would be quite interesting to see the emigration rate too over that period

the truth 25-02-2017 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9230540)
It's not surprising, skilled migrants that have a choice won't choose the UK over more welcoming countries.

more false supposition

Rogan Josh 25-02-2017 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9230321)
Record numbers arriving from Bulgaria and Romania, though. I don't think I've said this before... but Nigel Farage was right on the money about that one.

No one is under any illusion that these people are only coming for benefits. They are economic migrants that we don't need.

the truth 25-02-2017 04:34 PM

lets hope trump can get rid of political correctness and replace it with political truth

arista 25-02-2017 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9230350)
I thought brexit wasn't about immigration anyway... :/

The Vote was Not
for many of us.
Like Me or Celeb Ian Dale on LBC



However, "some" who
Voted on the 23rd of June 2016,
live in bad zones
that have become a mess...............

Rogan Josh 25-02-2017 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 9230619)
The Vote was Not
for many of us.
Like Me or Celeb Ian Dale on LBC



However, "some" who
Voted on the 23rd of June 2016,
live in bad zones
that have become a mess...............

All the politicians seem to be afraid to speak about 'the elephant in the room' .

Livia 25-02-2017 05:03 PM

So if skilled workers aren't coming - and it's only supposition to think they aren't - maybe we could train British people how to be skilled workers? Seems like a great idea to me.

Rogan Josh 25-02-2017 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9230672)
So if skilled workers aren't coming - and it's only supposition to think they aren't - maybe we could train British people how to be skilled workers? Seems like a great idea to me.

It is a great idea, if enough of them are willing to be trained and are interested enough. I have known quite a few people who would be happy to be trained to be skilled , if only they could get a reply to an application for a job, but therein lies the problem, who wants British workers?:shrug:

Livia 25-02-2017 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rogan Josh (Post 9230678)
It is a great idea, if enough of them are willing to be trained and are interested enough. I have known quite a few people who would be happy to be trained to be skilled , if only they could get a reply to an application for a job, but therein lies the problem, who wants British workers?:shrug:

You imply that an employer would take a qualified foreign candidate over a qualified British worker. In the case of skilled workers, professionals, people with trade qualifications, I don't think that's the case.

Rogan Josh 25-02-2017 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9230686)
You imply that an employer would take a qualified foreign candidate over a qualified British worker. In the case of skilled workers, professionals, people with trade qualifications, I don't think that's the case.

Some skilled people from the UK are lucky enough to find employment, if they win the lottery of getting a response to their applications, but it is a fact that some employers appear to favour foreign workers over British workers. There could be varying reasons for this, I have heard quite a few British employers saying foreign workers are better timekeepers. I personally don't agree with that as I have known many people who are very good timekeepers and are British and the poor timekeepers are in the minority, only in my own experience, I cannot comment for anyone else.

Livia 25-02-2017 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rogan Josh (Post 9230701)
Some skilled people from the UK are lucky enough to find employment, if they win the lottery of getting a response to their applications, but it is a fact that some employers appear to favour foreign workers over British workers. There could be varying reasons for this, I have heard quite a few British employers saying foreign workers are better timekeepers. I personally don't agree with that as I have known many people who are very good timekeepers and are British and the poor timekeepers are in the minority, only in my own experience, I cannot comment for anyone else.

I think that's mostly supposition. I'm sure there will be a couple of places like that... but most employers want someone suitably qualified to do the job and who speaks fluent English.

Rogan Josh 25-02-2017 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9230707)
I think that's mostly supposition. I'm sure there will be a couple of places like that... but most employers want someone suitably qualified to do the job and who speaks fluent English.

Yes, I know and you are entitled to your opinion on this subject, but I have known several people, very well qualified, in their chosen field, who have not even been given an interview with some British companies. One was a nephew who had a reply, got an interview with a British company and was interviewed by an Eastern European human resources manager, who employed an Eastern European person for the job. Who is to say who was better qualified to do the job?

Vicky. 25-02-2017 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9230672)
So if skilled workers aren't coming - and it's only supposition to think they aren't - maybe we could train British people how to be skilled workers? Seems like a great idea to me.

It is a great idea. However we need to support those people whilst they are learning of course. We have a shortage of people training to be doctors and nurses and such as it is :S I don't think discouraging trained people from coming here is a good thing as it realy does seem we need them...I hope I am proved wrong though

Rogan Josh 25-02-2017 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9230748)
It is a great idea. However we need to support those people whilst they are learning of course. We have a shortage of people training to be doctors and nurses and such as it is :S I don't think discouraging trained people from coming here is a good thing as it realy does seem we need them...I hope I am proved wrong though

I have worked with some of these trained professionals from the European Union and could not praise them highly enough as well as our own trained professionals, who seem to be in short supply, more's the pity as we need more young people to train in the professions , and then stay here in the UK.

Vicky. 25-02-2017 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rogan Josh (Post 9230762)
I have worked with some of these trained professionals from the European Union and could not praise them highly enough as well as our own trained professionals, who seem to be in short supply, more's the pity as we need more young people to train in the professions , and then stay here in the UK.

Definitely. This is a huge reason why we have a shortage IMO. People train here, then move elsewhere to work. Probably as they are treated badly working here. No wonder we have a shortage of skilled workers really :umm2:

Crimson Dynamo 25-02-2017 06:21 PM

lets not kid ourself that greedy business will employ the lowest common denominator to make profit - they will disguise this with

"british people wont do the jobs"

what they mean is

we can get illegals and immigrants on the cheap and make more money

The british workforce has been undermined by greed

shocking

arista 25-02-2017 06:32 PM

Yes LT
I am sick of UK Youths sitting on there FAT ass
avoiding Hard Work.


Enough is Enough.

Crimson Dynamo 25-02-2017 06:37 PM

We need national service for the young. army life for 3 years, make men of them, no phones or tablets only books and cold showers

teach them how to kill and polish shoes

:flutter:

arista 25-02-2017 06:50 PM

Yes I agree
National Service


That will sort out all the young tibbers


Come on TS
you know it makes sense

Crimson Dynamo 25-02-2017 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 9230798)
Yes I agree
National Service


That will sort out all the young tibbers

Arista you can build hangers in Ireland to house them, ship them over in their thousands. Ireland can get many jobs here, bolster the economy as we train the youth in discipline. A win win scenario and blue print to sell to the commonwealth?

they will arrive back in the UK ready for work, trained in trades we need, no media studies:nono: - plumbers, sparks, mechanics, roofers, carpenters..

:clap1:

Rogan Josh 25-02-2017 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9230764)
Definitely. This is a huge reason why we have a shortage IMO. People train here, then move elsewhere to work. Probably as they are treated badly working here. No wonder we have a shortage of skilled workers really :umm2:

I trained with people and I worked with people, Vicky and the only reason they went abroad was for more money. None of them were treated badly and neither was I, but I did have some really sh*t managers, who would have made anyone move away, including myself and I did on one occasion. I moved to London for a few years, from Scotland and I loved it, sometimes I wish I had never ever came back here :hee: but I settled , happily :bawling: here lol.

Crimson Dynamo 25-02-2017 06:58 PM

TS can be a camp leader, we have to monitor his subversive views, but he can teach leadership and discipline. Yes we need to keep an eye on him but CCTV will be installed in every dorm in case he smuggles in a Guardian or New Statesman or Little Mix DVD.

Rogan Josh 25-02-2017 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9230793)
We need national service for the young. army life for 3 years, make men of them, no phones or tablets only books and cold showers

teach them how to kill and polish shoes

:flutter:

Are you sure you're not treating them too gently :shocked:

VanessaFeltz. 25-02-2017 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9230793)
We need national service for the young. army life for 3 years, make men of them, no phones or tablets only books and cold showers

teach them how to kill and polish shoes

:flutter:

Way to go for diversity!

Brillopad 25-02-2017 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9230806)
Arista you can build hangers in Ireland to house them, ship them over in their thousands. Ireland can get many jobs here, bolster the economy as we train the youth in discipline. A win win scenario and blue print to sell to the commonwealth?

they will arrive back in the UK ready for work, trained in trades we need, no media studies:nono: - plumbers, sparks, mechanics, roofers, carpenters..

:clap1:

Media studies - one of those airy fairy non-subjects that no-one is sure what people are actually trained to do. :hee:


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