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Cherie 13-04-2017 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9279899)
The only point you discussed was high vis jackets, which would never be worth 20 pages on tibb in my opinion, so I'm struggling to see the parallel you were trying to make. Was there a different aspect of the short section you watched that would be worth a 20 page discussion under a different title?

if you are struggling then I can't help you understand my point, given Brillo got it immediately I think it's fairly obvious :hee:

DemolitionRed 13-04-2017 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9279972)
NM have you swallowed a Daily Mail?

In fairness to NM, his debating skills are pretty decent.

Northern Monkey 13-04-2017 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9279974)
Talaq (Muslim divorce) isn't recognised in the UK unless the divorce took place out of this country. They have to go through normal UK proceedings for a decree absolute and then if they wish, they can go to a Sharia court for a Talaq. Its the same with marriage. Many Muslims in the UK have what's called a Nikah ceremony but this isn't recognized as a marriage under British law and so if a Talaq goes ahead after a Nikah marriage, as far as English law is concerned, the couple were merely cohabiting.

Yeah but how many of them even operate under UK law.Many will just get a Sharia divorce then an Islamic marriage and carry on.

Northern Monkey 13-04-2017 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9279976)
In fairness to NM, his debating skills are pretty decent.

Thank you.I am a master(de)baiter

DemolitionRed 13-04-2017 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 9279977)
Yeah but how many of them even operate under UK law.Many will just get a Sharia divorce then an Islamic marriage and carry on.

More fool them. Legally married foreign couples in the UK have more rights than couples who cohabit. This is no different to Brits who get married on a choral island out in the Pacific. If they don't do things according to British law, then British law will not step in as their protectorate when the **** hits the fan.

Northern Monkey 13-04-2017 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9279983)
More fool them. Legally married foreign couples in the UK have more rights than couples who cohabit. This is no different to Brits who get married on a choral island out in the Pacific. If they don't do things according to British law, then British law will not step in as their protectorate when the **** hits the fan.

Hence why women get treated the way they do in those communities.
They're a law unto themselves.

DemolitionRed 13-04-2017 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 9279978)
Thank you.I am a master(de)baiter

Stands well back!

Withano 13-04-2017 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9279975)
if you are struggling then I can't help you understand my point, given Brillo got it immediately I think it's fairly obvious :hee:

Brillo either also thought it was Kizzy in the video or that you were trying to mock members of forum for being inconsistent though, and you already suggested you never intended on mocking anybody. So something doesnt add up.

DemolitionRed 13-04-2017 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 9279988)
Hence why women get treated the way they do in those communities.
They're a law unto themselves.

They probably have very little knowledge of their civil rights within a British marriage. If all they have ever know is Sharia law, to them a Nikah marriage is
the real thing.

Under Sharia law, a divorced woman can normally keep her child until the age of seven and then that child must be handed over to the father. In the UK though, regardless of a Nikah marriage or a Talaq divorce, British law will decide who should keep full or part custody of the children... Sharia courts have no power over this.

Northern Monkey 13-04-2017 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9280001)
They probably have very little knowledge of their civil rights within a British marriage. If all they have ever know is Sharia law, to them a Nikah marriage is
the real thing.

Under Sharia law, a divorced woman can normally keep her child until the age of seven and then that child must be handed over to the father. In the UK though, regardless of a Nikah marriage or a Talaq divorce, British law will decide who should keep full or part custody of the children... Sharia courts have no power over this.

Legally no.However i have seen something recently-ish where a woman was having alot of trouble getting her kids back.Can't remember where i saw it.She had UK lawyers involved.There was one lawyer who deals with this stuff all the time and was saying how hard it can be.
Infact it might be in an old thread on here.

Cherie 13-04-2017 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9279993)
Brillo either also thought it was Kizzy in the video or that you were trying to mock members of forum for being inconsistent though, and you already suggested you never intended on mocking anybody. So something doesnt add up.

I'd give up now before you get brain ache!

Northern Monkey 13-04-2017 05:21 PM

Secrets of Britains Sharia councils
 
Here you go

Withano 13-04-2017 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9280022)
I'd give up now before you get brain ache!

I'm giving up to avoid more of your negativity. On some mocking spree today, you.

Cherie 13-04-2017 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9280029)
I'm giving up to avoid more of your negativity. On some mocking spree today, you.

Good call

MB. 13-04-2017 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronald. (Post 9279841)
I keep reading this as Shania and think she has announce uk tour dates. I'd love to see her live. R.

:joker:

Withano 13-04-2017 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9280034)
Good call

The confusion you have for the infractions and bans of other members are slowly starting to make sense after seeing the behaviour you've shown in this thread.

DemolitionRed 13-04-2017 06:43 PM

@NM: Hmm, unregulated, unauthorized and little accountability. It sounds like many of these courts simply aren't working in favour of the women. I'm glad there are people working and campaigning for a better system of divorce under Sharia law.

There are clearly problems that need sorting out. What frustrates me is the general misunderstanding of what Sharia law is when its used within Britain. Its not criminal law and regardless of the obvious problems with it, it does not and never can work in parallel with English law.

Brillopad 13-04-2017 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9280078)
The confusion you have for the infractions and bans of other members are slowly starting to make sense after seeing the behaviour you've shown in this thread.

You're the one who sounds confused to me. :nono:


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