Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 9299224)

I don't mind hard graft and am happy to pay all my taxes and work darn hard and sometimes long hours too.
I'd never support this set of Conservative representatives because,while I am happy to do hard work.
I hate with a passion all that's been done and what I've come across, as the heartless robbing from the sick and disabled by this govt.

Where sick and disabled,incurable and terminally I'll have had to go to court to win back benefits wrongly taken off them or denied them
You may admired that as strong govt,I certainly don't.

They will pay multi millions to a French and American company to assess the UKs sick and disabled with the view of forcing people who cannot at this time work,or reduce the benefits they should be getting.

Saving a pittance in reality and then likely nothing at all when taxpayer funded court appeals are heard and won,which the vast majority are.

A rotten govt that demonstrates how rotten it is by how it treats the weakest,sick and disabled in its society.
It fills me with solid sadness and shame.

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9299122)

Who are the chavs by the way?

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 9299221)

Well I suppose if it makes the losers feel better ,lol, the Tories appeal to me at the moment as they are the only party with some realistic policies and people with a bit of nouse,all the others seem a bit brain dead, and their followers seem to get annoyed easily and then start name calling,knock yourselves out:hehe:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 9299227)

but at least you didn't stoop so low to call me a 'chav' I thank you for that:hehe:Oh and btw,IF the Tories ever bring back fox hunting,I will be a none voter.:wavey:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9299150)

I suggested that they appeal to both of these populations, and that they didnt two years ago.

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 9299206)

Or maybe they appeal to people who don't mind a bit of hard graft and want the best for the country

Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 9299218)

Or that using derogatory terms like chav is just as bad as using derogatory racist or sexist terms?

Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 9299218)

Once again lots of labelling and stereotyping going on most particularly from those who try to claim the moral high ground of the left. Do people even realize how much they are doing this? Or that using derogatory terms like chav is just as bad as using derogatory racist or sexist terms?

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9299232)

... She said, sounding annoyed and calling people "losers". :facepalm:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9299234)

I have no idea if you're a chav or not and I certainly didnt say that you were.
Chavs exist, and I didnt use it as an insult.. you're presumed its an insult and you denounced an entire sub-culture of Britain which was a bit rude
I dont believe chavs would have voted for tories 2 years ago, but I have seen their fanbase get chavvier, thus tories have expanded their fanbase to at least one new area, there may be others - as Alf mentioned, they're also getting the backing of brexiteers
Feel free to contribute to the thread with your own ideas instead of putting down others

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 9299241)

Well whats good for the goose is good for the gander,not nice is it?

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9299247)

I have no problem with people "being insulting" actually. However, I don't like hypocrites. Whining about people name calling whilst name calling, for example.

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 9299227)

I know disabled people ,my mom looked after one until he passed away in October, he was always treated well and helped as much as he needed it

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9299255)

Why am I still explain half a sentence from one post 38 posts later lol

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9299250)

Oh this changes everything! Your mum "looked after one". I didn't realise that you had a family member who had cared for "one of those". You probably know all about it, then. I for one will be much more comfortable deferring to your extensive knowledge and experience of "those" from now on.

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 9299258)

What a nasty person you are, you just quoted that part of my post to suit your agenda,I gave JOEY ,my reasons for how I was voting nothing to do with you,the gent she looked after was a family friend for years and not " one of those" and he was a great loss, Joey knows this,so butt out ,with your insensitive remarks.

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9299237)

Since when was chav a derogatory term at all. Why are you putting it on the same level as racism and sexism. Completely inappropriate.

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 9299258)

What a nasty person you are, you just quoted that part of my post to suit your agenda,I gave JOEY ,my reasons for how I was voting nothing to do with you,the gent she looked after was a family friend for years and not " one of those" and he was a great loss, Joey knows this,so butt out ,with your insensitive remarks.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9299265)

Ignore button. x

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9299264)

I had a post deleted because I said someone looked like a redneck. I'd say chav was just as insulting... more so in fact.

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 9299268)

I think so xx :wavey:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9299270)

Seems like you were getting personal.. 'looks like a chav' probably would be a similar level I agree, but I'd never get that personal, no need for it. Both groups exist, stating it so isn't the problem.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9299274)

I was referring to a housemate in Big Brother.

For an intelligent person, you do talk some rubbish sometimes, Withano, you really do.

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9299275)

Well, I'm not a mindreader, Livia, nor have I read through every single one of your posts.
I don't know why your post was deleted - seems fine to me - the way you described it anyway... although I rarely comment on peoples looks so I dont know where the line is there, I'm not the guy to ask.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9299274)

I was referring to a housemate in Big Brother.

For an intelligent person, you do talk some rubbish sometimes, Withano, you really do.