Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9318401)

I don't feel the need to take myself so seriously. This is a forum, somewhere to express our opinions on, amongst other things, politics. I'm not trying to kid myself i am writing a piece for The Times.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9318422)

You didn't "write" anything :shrug:, you linked to a crappy tabloid confirmation bias piece. However, I likewise was kidding myself when I imagined that you might actually have read anything other than a crappy tabloid confirmation bias piece :wavey:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 9318770)

Not all muslims are terrorists, but nearly all terrorists are muslim

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9318313)

I Agree NM. If the Muslim community want to be a real and valued part of British society they need to be involved in rooting out the extremists. They need to demonstrate their disdain for the Jihadist mindset by words and actions. One without the other doesn't count for much.

If we are all in this together than we all need to be in this together. Platitudes will not suffice.

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9318809)

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9318809)

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9318815)

I have seen that Kizzy and, like many I'm sure, am glad to see this, and am disgusted it doesn't appear to have been acted upon - but I hope some lessons are learned from this.

However it is the only case that we are aware of I believe. Many more Muslims need to be doing the same thing.

Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 9318382)

This latest terrorist, Twatface McGee, was reported by his mosque a number of times to MI5. His friends and some youth workers also reported him.

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 9318770)

Not all muslims are terrorists, but nearly all terrorists are muslim

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9318827)

Yes this is the only case that has so far come to light, how are we to believe this is an isolated incident? It has been stated by those in our public services how cuts have stretched counter terrorism measures and community policing.

'Austerity' ( bombing campaigns) have taken the funds desperately needed to fight home grown terrorism since 2010, it is our govt that have failed to protect us even though they have been well aware of the dangers of radicalisation since 2005.

Your view that 'more Muslims need to be doing the same thing' what thing?... Do you think that every Muslim family in the UK is complacent about the terror threat that they have jihadists living next door but just keep shtum?

https://www.thecanary.co/2017/05/27/...atching-video/

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9318830)

Not all men are are serial killers, but nearly all serial killers are men .........

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9318876)

More food for thought...

https://www.indy100.com/article/whit...-years-7761101

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9318884)

The thing is, Muslims integrate well in the community. Unlike some religions who keep themselves very much to themselves, none British Muslims embrace a lot of Britishness and most British Muslims are proud of being British.

By constantly sowing that seed of fear, we are quickly growing into a nation of hate and animosity. Imagine being born in a country where you know you're not wanted. We need to imagine what it must be like walking in their shoes. If I were living in a country where 50% of its citizens saw me as a threat, I'd be concerned. I would probably try and lay low and I'd eventually become bitter.

Sadly, this unfair and unjust reaction towards Muslims will close integration down and push Muslims into closed communities. We have to ask ourselves- Are Muslims more likely to radicalise if they have been shown a lot of racial hatred, not just by the right wing brigade but by granny at the corner shop? Because if the answer is 'yes', we need to stop and start taking more responsibility before all hell brakes loose.

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9318922)

For the majority It isn't about race so constantly trying to imply it is, is in itself inflammatory and smacks of an agenda in my opinion.

It is about a prehistoric religion that is known for its many dubious practices and very poor treatment of women in an otherwise modern world. It is about its blatant advertisement of that prehistoric and inhuman belief system on the streets of the West with no regard or respect for the indiginous population, as you well know.

Lack of respect begets lack of respect. It is as simple as that. :shrug:

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9318922)

For the majority It isn't about race so constantly trying to imply it is, is in itself inflammatory and smacks of an agenda in my opinion.

It is about a prehistoric religion that is known for its many dubious practices and very poor treatment of women in an otherwise modern world. It is about its blatant advertisement of that prehistoric and inhuman belief system on the streets of the West with no regard or respect for the indiginous population, as you well know.

Lack of respect begets lack of respect. It is as simple as that. :shrug:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9318933)

So your issue is with Muslims in general then not extremists?... Ok, I can't be bothered with this debate again.

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9318954)

It was clearly in response to a post that was being intentionally inflammatory, in my opinion, and implying any distrust of Muslims is about racism - it isn't. I don't trust white poligimous religious cults in America for example where fifty year old men marry under-age girls so what does that make me then in your opinion then.

This lack of acknowledgement of why people feel this way and constantly trying to state it is racism is a diversion tactic and a big part of the problem. As long as people continue do this things won't change.