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Greg! 08-06-2017 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 9343196)
Which is not what the blonde said either.

I think if someone calls you discriminatory, you have a right to take it as personally as someone calling you racist.

They are words on the same level.

And that what blonde was saying

so yeah sukhvinder can so suck one.

Kayleigh (I think) asked what discrimination means and Rebecca said "racism" which it isn't.

chuff me dizzy 08-06-2017 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 9343196)
Which is not what the blonde said either.

I think if someone calls you discriminatory, you have a right to take it as personally as someone calling you racist.

They are words on the same level.

And that what blonde was saying

so yeah sukhvinder can so suck one.

:clap1:

Niamh. 08-06-2017 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg! (Post 9343200)
Kayleigh (I think) asked what discrimination means and Rebecca said "racism" which it isn't.

She obviously said racism to make how she discriminates sound not as bad, idiot, I liked her as well until I heard her say that. Shallow, sexist bitch

Greg! 08-06-2017 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9343205)
She obviously said racism to make how she discriminates sound not as bad, idiot, I liked her as well until I heard her say that. Shallow, sexist bitch

Excactly this :clap1:

chuff me dizzy 08-06-2017 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg! (Post 9343200)
Kayleigh (I think) asked what discrimination means and Rebecca said "racism" which it isn't.

"its basically like racism " Is what Rebecca said

Cherie 08-06-2017 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 9343133)
https://www.facebook.com/BigBrotherU...type=2&theater

Kayleigh "what does discrimination mean again"
Rebecca "it's basically like racism,
Sukhvinder "it's not like...racism"

mess, natural drama though :love:

Kayleigh has never heard of discrimination fgs shoot me now

Jason. 08-06-2017 02:57 PM

Sukhvinder educating the ignorant :clap1:

Niamh. 08-06-2017 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9343211)
Kayleigh has never heard of discrimination fgs shoot me now

Yes. this is the true travesty in this little exchange :laugh:

Greg! 08-06-2017 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9343210)
"its basically like racism " Is what Rebecca said

Doesn't matter, she was still wrong and all Sukvhinder did was correct her.

chuff me dizzy 08-06-2017 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg! (Post 9343217)
Doesn't matter, she was still wrong and all Sukvhinder did was correct her.

Then threw in the poor me card

chuff me dizzy 08-06-2017 03:10 PM

Rebecca was right


discrimination
dɪˌskrɪmɪˈneɪʃ(ə)n/Submit
noun
1.
the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex.
"victims of racial discrimination"
synonyms: prejudice, bias, bigotry, intolerance, narrow-mindedness, unfairness, inequity, favouritism, one-sidedness, partisanship; More
2.
recognition and understanding of the difference between one thing and another.
"discrimination between right and wrong"
synonyms: differentiation, distinction, telling the difference
"the discrimination between right and wrong"

Denver 08-06-2017 03:11 PM

I think the law states you can not discriminate in a work place which includes forcing employees to wear make up

sampvt 08-06-2017 03:12 PM

Emplyers reserve the right to have a dress code so why not a make up code. They are after all paying you for your services. Too many idiots think they have rights and can do what they want. You wouldnt go to Macdonalds and expect to be able to turn up in shorts and flip flops for work

Niamh. 08-06-2017 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9343199)
Lots of places have a make up rule you couldn't work on a beauty counter without it ,lots of offices also have a make up and clothing rule if you're not happy to stick to their code, you just don't apply to work there I see nothing wrong in it whatsoever

Just because lots of people do it doesn't make it right :shrug:

Niamh. 08-06-2017 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 9343248)
Emplyers reserve the right to have a dress code so why not a make up code. They are after all paying you for your services. Too many idiots think they have rights and can do what they want. You wouldnt go to Macdonalds and expect to be able to turn up in shorts and flip flops for work

Yeah stupid idiots wanted rights and stuff

chuff me dizzy 08-06-2017 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9343253)
Just because lots of people do it doesn't make it right :shrug:

Why is it not right to want your staff dressing or looking a certain way ? they are representing you and your company

Niamh. 08-06-2017 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9343244)
Rebecca was right


discrimination
dɪˌskrɪmɪˈneɪʃ(ə)n/Submit
noun
1.
the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex.
"victims of racial discrimination"
synonyms: prejudice, bias, bigotry, intolerance, narrow-mindedness, unfairness, inequity, favouritism, one-sidedness, partisanship; More
2.
recognition and understanding of the difference between one thing and another.
"discrimination between right and wrong"
synonyms: differentiation, distinction, telling the difference
"the discrimination between right and wrong"

She wasn't right because Rebecca clearly said racism to try and make it sound like Sukhvinder was wrong in accusing her of discriminating which she wasn't

Niamh. 08-06-2017 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9343260)
Why is it not right to want your staff dressing or looking a certain way ? they are representing you and your company

As long as they look presentable and are doing the job they shouldn't have a say in whether or not you wear make up.

Denver 08-06-2017 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9343260)
Why is it not right to want your staff dressing or looking a certain way ? they are representing you and your company

Actually you can not make them do anything like a few years back a woman took her boss to work for making her wear high heels and won

SteveG2688 08-06-2017 03:20 PM

Discrimination - the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex.

SteveG2688 08-06-2017 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9343271)
As long as they look presentable and are doing the job they shouldn't have a say in whether or not you wear make up.

I agree. I remember when i was at college they used to make people wear makeup and if you didn't you would be sent home. Its so stupid i dont like that women at all, shes strikes me as extremely shallow.

chuff me dizzy 08-06-2017 03:22 PM

You couldn't turn up to work in Boots in a hoody and jeans

chuff me dizzy 08-06-2017 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9343271)
As long as they look presentable and are doing the job they shouldn't have a say in whether or not you wear make up.

Its Rebeccas business ,her choice

Niamh. 08-06-2017 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveG2688 (Post 9343278)
Discrimination - the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex.

Exactly. Discrimination isn't actually racism but it could be something a racist person does because they're racist, they could also call a person names or attack them which isn't discrimination but things racist people might do

AnnieK 08-06-2017 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9343272)
Actually you can not make them do anything like a few years back a woman took her boss to work for making her wear high heels and won

Actually you can:

Gender-based dress codes and grooming standards are a sort of exception to the usual rules about workplace sex discrimination. In all other respects, employers are required to treat men and women equally. Employers may not impose different rules or requirements on women than on men. For example, an employer could not legally require women to have more experience than men to be hired for a position, nor could they require women to arrive at work an hour earlier than men. In general, employers cannot create different performance, productivity, or conduct standards for women and men.
Similarly, employers are not allowed to bow to customer preference in any other respect when it comes to gender in the workplace. For example, courts have held that airlines may not discriminate against men who want to be flight attendants, even if their customers would prefer to be served by women. And, employers may not discriminate against women for jobs in the C-suite, even if their clients would be more comfortable doing business with men. Laws prohibiting sex discrimination are intended to change these cultural stereotypes, not to further them.
In the area of personal appearance, however, gender-based differences are allowed. And, because they are often upheld in the context of customer service positions like yours, it seems that part of the rationale has to do with customer expectations. Customers want to be served meals and drinks from employees who are well-groomed and look neat, and in our culture, that translates differently depending on whether the employee is male or female.
Courts have upheld different grooming standards and dress codes for men and women, including the requirement that women wear -- and men not wear -- makeup. Different hair requirements and clothing requirements have also generally been found to be legal. In one case, a federal appeals court allowed a casino to require female employees to wear makeup, to tease or style their hair, and to wear stockings, requirements that seem clearly intended to make these employees appear more sexually attractive to customers.
If a dress code or grooming requirement imposed a significant burden on one gender only, that might cross the legal line. For example, if men could wear any clothing they wanted, but women had to purchase uniforms at significant expense for the same job, a court might find this requirement to be discriminatory. Short of a heavily one-sided expense like this, however, different grooming codes for men and women are legal.

Source: employment law firm


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