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Vicky. 09-06-2017 12:27 PM

I do feel quite sorry for May. Cameron should have stuck around to sort out his own mess.

user104658 09-06-2017 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 9346832)
The DUP are an extremist party endorsed by active paramilitary groups that commit terrorist acts. After the events in Manchester and London, is it appropriate for them to be in coalition with the Conservatives?

What a grand marriage of septic minds.

This is not how it will be played in the press at all though; sad fact is, most people in the UK have no idea who / what the DUP is and will only be finding out about them from current media. They will be portrayed as level headed "strong and stable" supporters of the Union and Brexit.

The fact that they don't give a **** about anything at all other than keeping N.I. vassal-ed to the UK and have had an extremely dodgy history in Irish politics will be thoroughly whitewashed.

Brother Leon 09-06-2017 12:36 PM

She spent her whole campaign attacking Corbyn as a person. She deserves everything she has coming.

user104658 09-06-2017 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9346833)
I do feel quite sorry for May. Cameron should have stuck around to sort out his own mess.

That much is true, Cameron's legacy is one of a man high-tailing it to the hills in horror. Understandable, though, he didn't want nor support Brexit, heading it up wasn't feasible. Then again neither did May until it suited her career :joker:. But Cameron at least didn't try to pretend. It just SHOWS in May... she isn't convincing because SHE doesn't believe a word of what she's saying.

Vicky. 09-06-2017 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9346841)
This is not how it will be played in the press at all though; sad fact is, most people in the UK have no idea who / what the DUP is and will only be finding out about them from current media. They will be portrayed as level headed "strong and stable" supporters of the Union and Brexit.

The fact that they don't give a **** about anything at all other than keeping N.I. vassal-ed to the UK and have had an extremely dodgy history in Irish politics will be thoroughly whitewashed.

I knew **** all about them until a few hours ago, and even the bit I know now is terrifying.

Niamh. 09-06-2017 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9346859)
I knew **** all about them until a few hours ago, and even the bit I know now is terrifying.

It's odd how you all knew exactly who Sinn Féin were but not the DUP.........well not that odd really......

Tarryn 09-06-2017 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 9346844)
She spent her whole campaign attacking Corbyn as a person. She deserves everything she has coming.

She slagged off Corbyn for "getting into bed with terrorists" yet has just booked the Honeymoon suite with them herself.
The DUP are a nasty party full of hate.....a perfect match for the Tories.

Northern Monkey 09-06-2017 12:48 PM

She was tactically terrible.
The Labour party were a shambles.She intended to and should have wiped them out.But she changed tack part way and got over confident and tried to push a load crap through to help out her pals.
And in the process seems to be uniting Labour,A few anti Corbiners have been getting behind him in interviews and making them stronger.
She played this all wrong.
The 44% is just a result of the smaller parties fading away.
It was on a plate for her and she fecked it.

Vicky. 09-06-2017 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9346862)
It's odd how you all knew exactly who Sinn Féin were but not the DUP.........well not that odd really......

I didn't know who Sinn Fein were either. Until that photo of Corbyn came about and it was claimed they were all IRA members and that.

Our press are a disgrace tbh

Near everything they say I have to check these days

Wizard. 09-06-2017 01:12 PM

Yes I told her to eat sh*t perhaps that was a bit harsh

the truth 09-06-2017 02:51 PM

love to see you lot try and run the country, dela with brexit, article 50, a general election, 3 massive terrorist attacks etc in less than a year?
youre spectacularly overly judgemental

Kazanne 09-06-2017 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 9347039)
love to see you lot try and run the country, dela with brexit, article 50, a general election, 3 massive terrorist attacks etc in less than a year?
youre spectacularly overly judgemental

I would hate the job,must be so hard and stressfull,but strangely people do seem to think it's easy :laugh: but it's easy to sit back and criticize ,what a thankless job it is,I admire anyone who can do it.

Northern Monkey 09-06-2017 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 9347039)
love to see you lot try and run the country, dela with brexit, article 50, a general election, 3 massive terrorist attacks etc in less than a year?
youre spectacularly overly judgemental

Meh i'd do it on mi tea break :idc:

Cherie 09-06-2017 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 9346805)
She's someone I really can't stand. Reminds me of Carol, who was always moaning :omgno: The only one I dislike more is that bigheaded twat Tom. Quite like Imran, but he's dull.

:joker: post of the thread

Alf 09-06-2017 04:30 PM

:laugh:

Cherie 09-06-2017 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 9347039)
love to see you lot try and run the country, dela with brexit, article 50, a general election, 3 massive terrorist attacks etc in less than a year?
youre spectacularly overly judgemental

Not being funny but she has a Brexit minister David Davis and many minions doing all the leg work she isn't poring over the finer details by candlelight at midnight. She chaired a cobra meeting and gave a five minute speech after each attack, and she called the election so close to starting negotiations she has handed Brussels the upper hand

the truth 09-06-2017 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9347218)
Not being funny but she has a Brexit minister David Davis and many minions doing all the leg work she isn't poring over the finer details by candlelight at midnight. She chaired a cobra meeting and gave a five minute speech after each attack, and she called the election so close to starting negotiations she has handed Brussels the upper hand

yea Im sure its a walk in the park :whistle:

DemolitionRed 09-06-2017 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9346754)
Oh God, now look what you've done......... :hehe:

PMSL!!

Scarlett. 09-06-2017 06:03 PM

She's left her party significantly weaker, and in an impossible situation, its all her doing, she never too on board anyone one else's opinions.

DemolitionRed 09-06-2017 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9346780)
She specifically called it to increase the conservative Westminster majority as a madate for hard Brexit. That was the entire plan and it backfired spectacularly - not only did she fail to achieve a large majority, she LOST the small majority that she already had :facepalm:. You can't rewrite history now and claim it was called "so that she would be the legitimately elected PM"... that's not why it was called.

Especially when there's a not-too-small chance she will now be REPLACED as PM.

^This and she did it with such arrogance. This is what happens when one starts believing in their own hype. Her ego had her believing that she really was ruling over a one party state. At one point I really did wonder if she was trying to lose this election but nah; she just let the power go to her head and it cost her dearly.

I'm glad she's been dropped back down to earth. It must of been a hell of a bump.

joeysteele 09-06-2017 06:22 PM

Not being hard enough on her I'd say.
Her judgement is totally hopeless, on just about everything.

joeysteele 10-06-2017 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 9347177)
I would hate the job,must be so hard and stressfull,but strangely people do seem to think it's easy :laugh: but it's easy to sit back and criticize ,what a thankless job it is,I admire anyone who can do it.

I used to think like you as to the job but then over time events have proven to me anyway different.
It shouldn't be an easy job in any way and those who seek to be able to do it, once they have it hang on like crazy to stay in it.

No way wanting to give it up.
As for admiring anyone who does get it,it's their choice,however here I part company a little with you Kazanne a little.
Since they voluntarily seek the job,then if they get it, I then only either admire them or not,as to what they actually do 'in the job'.
What they do with the power the job gives them.

I more admire Doctors, who also choose their jobs but times come when they cannot save a life ir have to persuade others to let someone die.
Dealing with intense grief on a near daily scale.

PMs always have the chance to change how they do something in their dealings and also like a Doctor,can if the job is too stressful to them,freely give it up.
Usually however,it's humiliation or being pushed out that brings being a Prime Minister to the end.

Brillopad 10-06-2017 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 9346695)
She has 44% of the public vote which is the highest since 1983
she has a 57 seat majority over labour and only 8 seats short of an overall majority. The DUP just add the essential 8 , they are right wing so its not the coalition of chaos the likes of bitter ex chancellor george osbourne claims in his poisonous paper.

All this in the middle of the absolute chaos of brexit after everyone else quit from gove to cameron to boris etc ONLY may took on the phenomenal task of facing brexit...she pushed through article 50. another mighty challenge. our media is so hyper criticial yet the task shes had has needed someone almost super human to deal with...imagine dealing with brexit? going through 10000s of laws over 50 odd years entangling 30 nations and over 500 million people? and a party that is killing itself with a civil war over



Is it any wonder the electorate is volatile?

At the end of the day she asked for an election as she needed to be voted in legitimately, she hasnt got a clear majority but she has won and she is rightly the prime minister. The economy is doing well since she has taken over too, the markets are booming, growth has exceeded expectations, unemployed has fallen...I suggest give her a bit of respect now and allow her time to try and go into battle with those EU bigwigs. Its time we unite and do battle for britain

Agreed. Trouble is party loyalties get in the way and all many can focus on is what they believe a party represents. The Tories are seen by many as a party for the rich and the oldies, whilst Labour are seen as a Robin Hood who will take from the rich to give to the poor and for the young. It is far from being that simple.

As you say at the end of the day she won and people should focus on getting it right, especially Brexit. Political parties and politicians can be changed in four years but There will be no second chances with Brexit - we absolutely have to get it right and we need to focus on that now.

bots 10-06-2017 10:25 AM

Forgetting all the politics that surround the election for the moment and peoples personal likes and dislikes with regard to political parties.

There is no-one that would say that May had a good campaign. She had a confused message and she failed to articulate it clearly. This wasn't a Conservative party campaign, it was a Theresa May campaign and therefore she has to take responsibility for it.

We can argue about when the right time is for her to step down as the leader of the party, but she will step down as a result of this, that is not in any doubt

All that being said, with the worst campaign ever witnessed by a major political party on UK soil, the opposition still managed to lose the election and that fact doesn't change no matter how people care to dress it up.

Kazanne 10-06-2017 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9350001)
Forgetting all the politics that surround the election for the moment and peoples personal likes and dislikes with regard to political parties.

There is no-one that would say that May had a good campaign. She had a confused message and she failed to articulate it clearly. This wasn't a Conservative party campaign, it was a Theresa May campaign and therefore she has to take responsibility for it.

We can argue about when the right time is for her to step down as the leader of the party, but she will step down as a result of this, that is not in any doubt

All that being said, with the worst campaign ever witnessed by a major political party on UK soil, the opposition still managed to lose the election and that fact doesn't change no matter how people care to dress it up.

Totally agree bots,I firmly believe had she had a good manifesto and attended the question times she would have wiped the floor with Corbyn,his supporters should be thanking her as she has boosted his standing.The first gaff she made was the fox hunting issue.silly woman.


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