you mean the one confirmed response so far


Dont go looking for a job at Survation any time soon :joker:

better than labor who say one thing do another? the gap between rich and poor was bigger by the end of labours disastrous 13 years in government than it had been in 200 years

I wasn't going to comment here as my only interest in the Cons now,is to see them turfed out.

I couldn't resist having to agree with this post however.

it was a typical left wing cheap shot...how can labour preach about morals after killing a million iraquis....bankrupting our economy, seeing an nhs rife with filth mrsa and 1000s literally dying of thirst in nhs hospitals
total hypocrites

and as predicted the thread has taken a nose dive

Theres more than one, sweety

I'm fascinated as to why you're posting things like this in every thread, as if you're some sort of impartial observer, rather than right square in the thick of these "nosediving threads" :think:.

I wouldn't even bother posting why I would vote Conservative if I was to vote , the question was only asked to bait and have a pop at people who don't fawn over Corbyn

Not 'the cunning plan' exposed

:omgno:

Traditional venture capitalism is no longer de rigueur :)

Thank **** :)

If this thread is not your cup of tea just don't post in it...it's not hard. there are lots of other threads aren't there?

Nobody has a knife to your throat forcing anyone to comment do they? :/

If you feel this thread is just baiting, feel free to give it a miss.

wait, other threads?

:omgno:

Although seriously, I was a Conservative up to 18.
It was my worries about the NHS and raising tuition fees that moved me unwisely to Lib Dem in the 2010 election.

I did see the Conservative party as a competent and more trustworthy party with the economy.
I felt John Major had moved the party back from being anti NHS too.

It's funny how things change and people on here I am close to have made the other transition to me,they from Labour to Con,for their own valid reasons. As mine are from Con to Labour.

Competence before would have been what would have had me vote Conservative.
However,just for myself now, I'd rather have compassion in policy.

I find that now in Labour and sadly see little of it in the Conservatives.
Although there are many in the Conservative party who are strongly compassionate, sadly they at present do not make up the leadership of the party.

I guess for most,it's how policies affect yourself.
I will always wish for the day when politics and govt.is made up of the just,compassionate and concensus MPs who actually,from all main Parties,are the vast majority of MPs.

Competence, tolerance,fairness,consensus ,compassion and sensitivity if one day that can be evident in a party or govt.that will be great days for politics and the Nation.

Thanks TT

If I was to read all of this and find all the proper channels to prove them right, I'd be reasonably pleased about some of those things... especially a rise in GDP because that would make a lot of difference to my life.

The problem is, many of the things you stated just aren't so. We have gone over the value of tax to GDP and we've already talked about the Tories halving the debt versus Osborne tripling the debt and we've also talked about the £billions cut from the welfare budget since 2010 have made not a scrap of difference to the national debt so I think we just have to agree to disagree on those things.

Interesting what you were saying about the Welsh economy and the NHS within Wales under the Labour party, because this is something I haven't seen any wide discussions on... but then I'm not Welsh.

Wales could never do well under the single market because Wales were big producers of products such as steel and agriculture. When any industry has an EU cap imposed on its production every time there’s a glut, its going to make those lands a shadow of their former self, especially if that land relied on its productions (unlike the city of London which relies on bankers). I think its disgusting that we have to import leeks and lamb to Wales but that’s not going to change whilst we are in the EU, regardless of who is sitting in number 10.

I’m aware that Wales is the UK’s lowest spending country. Block grants which are determined by something called the Barnett Formula are handed out to individual governments each year. The Barnett Formula (worth becoming familiar with) is worked out on populations size. The problem with this is, it’s a historic formula (I believe the last formula was done in 2000) and so the population proportions are different than what we have today. England and Scotland don’t even use the Barnett Formula for services such as the NHS; they work out monies needed based on age, health and poverty. If the British government allowed the same with Wales, Wales would be receiving 10% more funding than it presently does. Its time Westminster burned this arcane formula and stopped inflicting it on Wales and Northern Ireland.

Another thing I wanted to ask you about was the Ombudsman. I believe they’ve now introduced a rail passenger ombudsman? but I can’t find any new legislation regarding parliamentary and Health Service Ombudsman? Whilst an Ombudsman can ask an organization like the NHS to make changes, they can’t make or insist that organization changes unless its actually breaking laws.

I think that they're seen as the "true" UK party, and tbf in the past they might've been, but I honestly think that this current lot are more set on destroying the UK if it means they pocket out of it.

BIB wasn't anything to do with Labour or Tories, it was the Republican party in America which bankrupted nearly the whole world, how any party from the UK can get the blame for that is beyond me.

I agree with you on the Iraq front for Labour.

And the NHS has been run poorly ever since I've been alive, so that's a shared blame between Labour and Tories.

Iraq was a terrible thing that Labour did but Camerons Libya was equally ill conceived. Blair will always be blamed for the lie on weapons of mass destruction and Cameron will be equally blamed for the opportunist regime change that aided the rise of ISIS.