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Brillopad 21-06-2017 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9377214)
This entire election just seems fake. Like an elaborate practical joke. A tiny party demanding 2 billion from the largest party so they can both have power. That doesnt sound real! The largest party contemplating using the most backward party that would serve no purpose but alienating a large proportion of their supporters doesnt sound real!

Just call another snap and give Corbyn the win imo.

They won't call an election unless they have to and it is not on the cards ATM. And even if they do there are no guarantees Corbyn will get it. A lot of people are disgusted how he used the tower tragedy to help himself - we will see won't we.

Hopefully more are waking up to him and even more will do so by the time of another election, if there is one.

the truth 21-06-2017 04:24 PM

it would be mad to have yet another election now, weve had 2 general elections and 2 referendums in the last few years and we have brexit started 3 days ago... The hysterical fleet street media always made a big drama out of everything, that idiot laura kunnssberg on the pitiful bbc news is a classic example. what an idiot she is ..endless exagerated soap operatic reports from downing street..screaming down the road at the prime minsiter? so shes 8 short of a total majority, so what? many have been before many will be again. it will get worked out...Lets just keep calm and carry on

Brillopad 21-06-2017 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 9377242)
it would be mad to have yet another election now, weve had 2 general elections and 2 referendums in the last few years and we have brexit started 3 days ago... The hysterical fleet street media always made a big drama out of everything, that idiot laura kunnssberg on the pitiful bbc news is a classic example. what an idiot she is ..endless exagerated soap operatic reports from downing street..screaming down the road at the prime minsiter? so shes 8 short of a total majority, so what? many have been before many will be again. it will get worked out...Lets just keep calm and carry on

Agreed.

Withano 21-06-2017 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9377239)
They won't call an election unless they have to and it is not on the cards ATM. And even if they do there are no guarantees Corbyn will get it. A lot of people are disgusted how he used the tower tragedy to help himself - we will see won't we.

Hopefully more are waking up to him and even more will do so by the time of another election, if there is one.

Nah, he'd get the landslide victory. Tories havent stopped ****ing up for about 15 months running now, most specifically in the last 3. It wont be called, but it should be. As if 5 years of a minority government/ 2bn wasted on a fascist party is useful to anybody

the truth 21-06-2017 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9377258)
Nah, he'd get the landslide victory. Tories havent stopped ****ing up for about 15 months running now, most specifically in the last 3. It wont be called, but it should be. As if 5 years of a minority government/ 2bn wasted on a fascist party is useful to anybody

lol no he really wouldnt the result would be almost identical , its only been a few weeks, even the brits arent that fickle

DemolitionRed 21-06-2017 05:37 PM

Even most Tory Brits are worried about this deal with DUP because its not just about making up the numbers, its about the role of the government in the Northern Ireland peace process. When that peace process is in trouble, as it is at the moment, the British and Irish government are the mediator between the unionists and the nationalists. How can they remain the mediator when the unionists are now being brought into government?

She called this election because she thought Labour were weak and she was going to get a landslide but what was designed to expose Labour's weaknesses has profoundly exposed hers... and the country's not stupid. The Tory party have become a joke from their own making and if we aren't careful, we are going to end up as a failed state and all this because the Tories are too busy looking out for their own party... hanging onto number 10 like barnacles instead of getting out their and looking after their nation. And now, to top it all, they want to destroy what John Major and Tony Blair put in place... the peace process in Northern Ireland. Tory or not, we should all be fcuking angry about this.

Withano 21-06-2017 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 9377369)
lol no he really wouldnt the result would be almost identical , its only been a few weeks, even the brits arent that fickle

It would be almost identical if there were little to no changes between the day before the election and right now... but if youve been keeping up, you would know that a feck load has changed. Obviously that would be reflected in a new snap.

King Gizzard 21-06-2017 06:29 PM


Brillopad 21-06-2017 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9377410)
Even most Tory Brits are worried about this deal with DUP because its not just about making up the numbers, its about the role of the government in the Northern Ireland peace process. When that peace process is in trouble, as it is at the moment, the British and Irish government are the mediator between the unionists and the nationalists. How can they remain the mediator when the unionists are now being brought into government?

She called this election because she thought Labour were weak and she was going to get a landslide but what was designed to expose Labour's weaknesses has profoundly exposed hers... and the country's not stupid. The Tory party have become a joke from their own making and if we aren't careful, we are going to end up as a failed state and all this because the Tories are too busy looking out for their own party... hanging onto number 10 like barnacles instead of getting out their and looking after their nation. And now, to top it all, they want to destroy what John Major and Tony Blair put in place... the peace process in Northern Ireland. Tory or not, we should all be fcuking angry about this.

Interesting how you fail to mention that the SDLP, throughout negotiations and the peace process, took the Labour whip in Parliament. How convenient you fail to harp on about how that weakened the peace process. Or that Gordon Brown also tried to make a deal with the DUP in 2010.

One rule for the Tories and another for Labour. :smug:

Beso 21-06-2017 06:44 PM

The queens outfit is trending in conspiracists circles because it resembled the eu flag

DemolitionRed 21-06-2017 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9377560)
Interesting how you fail to mention that the SDLP, throughout negotiations and the peace process, took the Labour whip in Parliament. How convenient you fail to harp on about how that weakened the peace process. Or that Gordon Brown also tried to make a deal with the DUP in 2010.

One rule for the Tories and another for Labour. :smug:

Because I'm talking about the present, not the past. I'm in the here and now because this isn't a tit for tat, my teams better than your team playground squabble, its about the future of Britain and the future of Northern Ireland NOW.

DemolitionRed 21-06-2017 06:57 PM

And you know what. I don't give a flying siht what party runs this country providing that party can progress and do better by its people and the people of Northern Ireland.

Brillopad 21-06-2017 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9377594)
Because I'm talking about the present, not the past. I'm in the here and now because this isn't a tit for tat, my teams better than your team playground squabble, its about the future of Britain and the future of Northern Ireland NOW.

If it didn't affect the peace process then, why should it now - unless those Corbynites out there want to intentionally make a big thing about it to stir up a hornet's nest they wouldn't have welcomed back then - an underhand political tactic, down and dirty. Still amounts to double standards.

Shaun 21-06-2017 07:12 PM

A true coalition of chaos :( hope it's resolved soon xxx

joeysteele 21-06-2017 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9377522)
It would be almost identical if there were little to no changes between the day before the election and right now... but if youve been keeping up, you would know that a feck load has changed. Obviously that would be reflected in a new snap.

I think another election in the next few months would result in Labour being the largest party.

I can easily see around another 30 seats going Labour now.
The momentum is with Labour, hopefully their own MPs see that too.

King Gizzard 21-06-2017 09:26 PM


Kizzy 21-06-2017 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 9378379)

The DUP asked for 2 billion didn't they? They are some expensive votes the tories will be buying from the funds from the public money tree :idc:

Kizzy 22-06-2017 10:39 AM

Sorry DUP you can't have your 2 billion we have 600 tower blocks to reclad :(

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7802406.html

joeysteele 22-06-2017 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9378541)
The DUP asked for 2 billion didn't they? They are some expensive votes the tories will be buying from the funds from the public money tree :idc:

It's obscene in my view.

Brillopad 22-06-2017 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 9377650)
I think another election in the next few months would result in Labour being the largest party.

I can easily see around another 30 seats going Labour now.
The momentum is with Labour, hopefully their own MPs see that too.

I think that is wishful thinking. Do the remainers realise how many they have pi**ed off calling for a second referendum with their arrogant claims that people didn't understand what they were voting for.

What they really mean is that it is not what they want. I think many who voted to remain have been put off by such attitudes and would now vote leave.

Kizzy 22-06-2017 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9380329)
I think that is wishful thinking. Do the remainers realise how many they have pi**ed off calling for a second referendum with their arrogant claims that people didn't understand what they were voting for.

What they really mean is that it is not what they want. I think many who voted to remain have been put off by such attitudes and would now vote leave.

Wasn't that lib dems in reference to brexit?...How is that a response to a post about Labours position in the GE?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-poli...mber-of-public

Vicky. 22-06-2017 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9380329)

What they really mean is that it is not what they want. I think many who voted to remain have been put off by such attitudes and would now vote leave.

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9380329)
I think that is wishful thinking.

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Tom4784 22-06-2017 01:07 PM

They need to call another election at this point, a minority government isn't viable and it seems like the Tories can't get a coalition going.

Northern Monkey 23-06-2017 11:11 PM

Leaked footage of Theresa Mays talks with the DUP at a social event!
 
It didn't go well....


Kizzy 24-06-2017 03:12 AM

:joker: :joker: :joker:


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