Every fandom is dishonest about their favourite to some extent, I haven't noticed Raph fans being particularly bad this series, but then that's maybe because I am one I don't know.

Compared to what I've seen from BB11, BB12, BB13, BB15, and BB17, and the Celeb year that Jim Davidson won this has been a walk in the park for me with how the fandoms have behaved, I know that we all see things differently though as you might be getting grief over certain opinions I have no idea.

I was actually going to bring that up lol we never see the shopping list anymore. It's the little things like that that make BB well..BB.

In regards to Ellie I genuinely think she's a normal girl it does seem sometimes that people complain if someones been on a reality show previously and then also complain when someone is just normal.

Yeah, I think you have blinkers on maybe because it suits your bias this time around.

Truth :joker::joker:

Yeah - I think they did it last year - last years civillian BB was considered a really good one - there was all the awkwardness with Charlie and Jason - Andy standing up for himself - and that moment when Hughie was drunk dancing and accidentally fell in the pool - one of the best moments on bb of all time - they did that whole "other housemates thing" the others - which was weird - but it worked out really well.

* if you want to look up Hughie dance - its called "hughies sexy dancing doesnt end well"

And it was real! He wasn't acting oh how I miss those days