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Crimson Dynamo 27-07-2017 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by lewis111 (Post 9496077)
They are people - how can busnies be more important
You and I are no more important than they are either do you feel busniess is more important than you

Local business is what stops people being homeless I guess

Crimson Dynamo 27-07-2017 11:06 AM

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cp...7c4aea4bea.jpghttps://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/..._homeless2.jpghttps://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/...xford.fine.jpg

Crimson Dynamo 27-07-2017 11:09 AM

https://www.oxford.gov.uk/info/20019...sleeping_rough

no excuse for it and i would imagine its the lucrative aspect of the residents that attracts them?

Cal. 27-07-2017 11:12 AM

So sad we still have people without basic needs in this day and age. :(

arista 27-07-2017 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9496110)
https://www.oxford.gov.uk/info/20019...sleeping_rough

no excuse for it and i would imagine its the lucrative aspect of the residents that attracts them?

For Sure
LT

Kizzy 27-07-2017 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9495817)
No, this has nothing to do with the government. It's a decision that's been made by Oxford City Council... a LABOUR controlled council. So much for all-inclusiveness.

This is everything to do with the government and the removal of funding and facilities such as Lucy Faithfull house homeless shelter in Oxford last year, this is not isolated in Oxford but is a national issue that is/has crippled every borough.

Need I remind you that prior to June Oxford had been held by the tories for 30yrs?
They were committed to criminalising homelessness,

''A petition urging Oxford City Council to scrap plans to ban rough sleeping in the city has gained 65,000 signatures.
The proposed Public Spaces Protection Order (PSPO) would ban certain anti-social activities in the city centre and fine those who breach the order.
Opponents say the PSPO would effectively criminalise homelessness and is an attempt by the council to "cover up" the city's housing crisis.''

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-32282822

What is the reason for the explosion in homelessness? Sometimes it helps to look at the bigger picture, no one council has any culpability here, nor is it a nationally shared shame, it is a central government funding failure issue. The shame is 100% theirs.

''Oxford continues to be one of the cities with the highest number of rough sleepers outside of London.
Numbers in the city last year rose from 11 in 2010 to 39''

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-engl...rough-sleepers

Kizzy 27-07-2017 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9496110)
https://www.oxford.gov.uk/info/20019...sleeping_rough

no excuse for it and i would imagine its the lucrative aspect of the residents that attracts them?

Nothing to do with the welfare cap, bedroom tax or the hike in private rentals then?...

Crimson Dynamo 27-07-2017 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9496643)
Nothing to do with the welfare cap, bedroom tax or the hike in private rentals then?...

That is correct, nothing at all

Kizzy 27-07-2017 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9496645)
That is correct, nothing at all

ok

Livia 27-07-2017 02:41 PM

Labour Council.

What does Jeremy say about it? That Oxford City Council plans to find the homeless? I expect he'll say it's the government's fault too.

Kizzy 27-07-2017 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9496690)
Labour Council.

What does Jeremy say about it? That Oxford City Council plans to find the homeless? I expect he'll say it's the government's fault too.

Yes it's a Labour council I noted that the last time you posted it thanks.
What would I expect Jeremy to say about it other than it's a damning indictment of the current state of England under the tories that the vulnerable in Oxford to have nowhere to go?

What do you have to say on the issue of funding cuts?

Livia 28-07-2017 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9496862)
Yes it's a Labour council I noted that the last time you posted it thanks.
What would I expect Jeremy to say about it other than it's a damning indictment of the current state of England under the tories that the vulnerable in Oxford to have nowhere to go?

What do you have to say on the issue of funding cuts?

If you want to talk about funding cuts start a thread. This is about Oxford City Council prosecuting homeless people.

The vulnerable have never had anywhere to go under any government. The last Labour government turned its back on them the same way the Tories have. But for a Labour council to victimise these people, to prosecute them and fine them, as if you could get blood out of a stone, actually shocked me. I may have expected it from the Tories, but a Labour council? So they can't afford to house people because of the cuts (and, of course, because social housing is being sold off and not replaced). Oxford City Council's answer is to prosecute and fine them? And you're still deflecting any blame from Labour?

You know, I'm always happy to speak out when the Tories do something despicable. But Labour supporters seem to be so blinkered, they'll try to justify anything they do.

Kizzy 28-07-2017 12:35 PM

I can debate anything I like if it relates to the context of the thread, which funding undoubtedly does.
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3f...ty-council.jpg

Look at the date of the act, it's quite significant in your 'what did they do?' they didn't criminalise being homeless for a start.

Note how the notice is to nobody of nowhere...Is this enforceable?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7859246.html

storybrooke 28-07-2017 01:06 PM

I don't know where they are expecting the homeless people to find £1500

Crimson Dynamo 28-07-2017 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by storybrooke (Post 9500654)
I don't know where they are expecting the homeless people to find £1500

probably a weeks takings...


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