15 was my least favourite season but 19 overtakes that now.

I think 15 is the only other one I've seen fully oop. I've seen bits of BB2/3.

He's the American equivalent to Bear :joker:

The only seasons i hate are 9/15/19

I love or like or find alright the rest tbh :laugh:

The more I think about it I kinda liken this season to 12? A few Big Characters who make it about halfway to keep your interest temporarily, but once they're gone you come to the sick realization that there isn't even a game being played save for one or two people. Again, I'm someone who doesn't care about good gameplay or bad gameplay but no gameplay is a huge problem since this is, hello, a game show. These people are perfectly content with making jury, openly see Paul playing the game, and just simply do not care a ****. Jason offered to be nominated so that the house wouldn't have the opportunity to flip on Paul. Matt is elated that once Cody is evicted this week Paul can coast until the final five. Alex wants to lose to him in the final two. Now all we need is for Christmas to pull a Britney Haynes and ask "lol so how weird is it that there were no alliances this season?" only for her to get booted in tears at final four. Like, I don't think Jody are similar to Brenchel at all but they serve the same purpose.

alol how sad is it that BB15, the season with a national racism scandal, will be one of the better seasons of the 2010s? That's the grim reality we're facing.

I voted yes because I wanted to agree that LJ is always right ... but also because I gave up on this season, mostly because of what Macie has already said...

I'm surprised BB12 is considered one of the bad seasons, I would've thought people would like it just for Rachel alone :laugh: What's the consensus on BB13?

I think it's almost as bad as BB16 and BB18, but BB18 is slightly above it because there were some entertaining moments, and BB16 is such a low point for this show I don't think anything can be worse than that (though this season is sure as hell trying to be)

^ I think BB13 was pretty good, I know a lot of people don't like it but I don't really know why (apart from the obvious rigging for Rachel)

Rachel is the only reason why BB12 was somewhat enjoyable, as the drama/arguments were almost always revolved around her. Besides that the whole season was dominated by one awful alliance and no one else showed any sense of gameplay, and once she went it was a boring ****fest.

BB13 is usually in the middle of everyone's rankings. I personally enjoy it to an extent as it has a divide and and some drama/arguments to keep you entertained, but it falls flat and the riggage is annoying (although it's the reason someone won so I'm not complaining).

BB13 also gave us the best double eviction of all time <3

12 did have Rachel (and Kathy alol :love:) but it was still soooooo bad and pathetic. There was literally one alliance all season and they steamrolled all the way to the end without much threat or worry at all, to the point where the girl that came in fourth place was like "lol so guys how weird is it that there were no alliances this season????" only for the other three dudes to tell her that they were aligned the whole time and she was getting embarrassingly booted the next day while she sobbed about it. The cast was also pretty tame by BB standards and they were SO convinced that they were making great television that it got to a point in like Week 2 where they had a stupid house meeting and afterwards they were so proud of themselves and all "WOW, they're gonna need to add a fourth episode this week to show all the CRAZINESS and MAYHEM!!!!!" when nothing happened at all and it was a struggle just to fill three episodes. Like, the season doesn't seem bad in hindsight because it was followed up by a bunch seasons that were somehow even worse but it was very bad.

and BB13 is okay. Some good and some bad. An annoying cult of veterans and their worshippers and some likable underdogs. Some semblance of power shifts and some of the most blatant rigs in BBUS history. A mixed bag that is not exactly good, but it shines like a star compared to most of the seasons that preceded and followed it.

Oh I was enjoying it before I went on holiday :worry: I'm guessing it got trash

omg yay Ross is back. But yeah this season has quickly turned grim! The signs were really there the whole time but it's starting to manifest itself big time.

Also, can we talk about how these HGs broke the Temptation Competition even quicker than Battle of the Block was broken? Another lame twist in the books.

Everyone's such a ****ing sheep for Paul and it's so infuriating to watch. Especially with Jess being robbed of jury even though she was the only one playing a rival game. True queen and star of the season.

See that's one of the things I find off-putting about BBUS, when all the worst people manage to somehow align, dominate and then make it to the end. That's why I enjoyed BB6 so much because it was simply just two sides going after each other and the power shifted equally between the two, so it never felt like a steamroll with one side having the upper hand.

I think you'd enjoy BB13 for that reason. It's a little boring for the first few weeks as the vets have full control and most of the newbies are minions, however later on it becomes a battle of the veterans (except one) and an all female alliance called The Babysitter's Club (:love:), with the power alternating every week and the floaters (don't know if this is the right term to use but w/e) jumping to whichever alliance is in control. It's a tame divide and nowhere near as interesting as Friendship vs Sovs but still pleasant.

Jason you would *LOVE* OTT then. Some of the stuff is tamed down for the episodes but there's plenty of supplemental YouTube clips, the power literally goes back and forth until the very end, and the ending is very satisfying.

I've seen a few clips of BB13 (granted, they were all arguments lol but still) and it does intrigue me?

Yeah, you and Luke are selling me OTT. I always assumed it was just a spin-off to the main show but then I remembered a post of yours from a few weeks back where you mentioned that BB17 and OTT are like the only two good seasons from this decade, so it's hard to pass up.

12 and 16 were bad seasons.
At least we had Jess this season.

I actually think BB19 is a best season of all time candidate. :joker: It's definitely on pace for top 5.

But then again I think BB12 is sort of top 5-ish and BB16 wasn't a bad season at all (it's one of the better ones until the very end - which wasn't even too bad cause I liked the end result anyway). So allow your mind to get blown.

BB14 or BB15 is the worst season ever (or BB9 but I find it hard to even count it because it was lulzy and different).

The fact I still LOVED Dan throughout BB14 and still found it hard to get through BB14 probably says something about that season. And BB15 was just bad all around. BB18 wasn't good at all but it wasn't awful either.

OTT was NOT good and that's also despite me liking a lot of the people who made it far. The entire season just felt very weird. I could've sworn people weren't enjoying it at the time either?

I wanna know what meds Jersey is on to enjoy all these cancerous seasons :think:

You need to start taking your friendship pills.

What I wanna know is why did Paul get brought back but not our second place queen Liz Nolan?

Probably bc in reality Liz won over Stevil :flutter: