Tom,sorry to hear about your friend:sad: Terrible news

So Paris should be treated like Ian Huntley and put in a cell on her own. It didn't work for his at Wakefield he still got done over by the other inmates.

Yeah she does but she's chosen the 'celebrity lifesytle' and with that comes the attention and publicity. In addition to that comes money and shofers (sp?) and everything else she wants... she could have quite easily hired somebody to drive her, then none of this would have happened. But she's more interested in getting wrecked than thinking of others and her actions.

Now to everyone- I don't think celebrities are above 'normal' people in everyday life, but in this case they just are. I'm just thinking about Paris' safety, as a fan.
I understand where everyones coming from, but its so easy to say 'if you cant do the time, dont do the crime' without thinking about what would happen.

Good point there was no reason for her to commit the crime in the first place. She isn't short of money.

Yeah, i suppose we will, kinda. And now my toast has burnt because i was writing that post. :laugh:

Really sorry to hear that Tom, must be devastating.

But to be honest with you, this may sound harsh or not but i couldn't care less about her safety to be honest.

Do you think she gave anybody a thought when she got into the car drunk? Seriously, she didn't care. Her main care is herself so i don't think she deserves much consideration when she didn't give the other drivers on the road much consideration.

Harsh maybe, but true.

Exactly, her fans are commenting on how her celebrity lifestyle is going to make her more of a target but this celebrity lifestyle also gave her a lot more tools to prevent this from happening in the first place, a lot more tools that us 'normal people' don't have, i.e money.

Another good point.

But all this talk about Paris safety does raise questions about the American Prison system. We really shouldn't be having this debate because prisoner safety shouldn't be a concern.

Call me sad but it's something i've always been interested in so i do read up on it all and it has apparantly gotten better over the years but there is ALWAYS going to be a risk of abuse from other prisioners and possible death, but then... this is the real world. You'd like to think it could be a safe place for them to go and 'learn from their mistakes' and that is the case sometimes but there is always a risk, and although it's sad, it's true and it's life.

There is a simple answer to that question.

There is no such thing as a "Wrong Way" or a "Right Way" of doing things.

There is "Your Way" & there is "My Way" and that is life.

Nobody can change that Ruth. You can try to talk sense to a mass of Paris Hilton fans on what should or shouldn't be done or said, but you probably will be ignored and one or two will want to state their opinion strongly.

Trying to sort it all out in an intellectual way, just won't wash sometimes. It is just hard to get through.

I don't know hardly anything about Paris Hilton, even though I hear her name a lot, she is just not one of those Celebrities that I have ever focused on. I neither hate her or love her.

I did have a quick look at the story about her apparently going to jail, and the evidence and reasons are all there in black & white for us all to read.

But Newspapers do overstate things a lot. So we must bear that in mind:spin:

Also, if you click on this link:-

http://www.tmz.com/2007/05/05/45-days-her-ass/

(It says that Paris may be in a better position?)

Short article below:-

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Just because Paris Hilton was sentenced to 45 days in jail, it doesn't mean she'll do the time. Because of overcrowding and other issues, L.A. inmates often get sprung early.

Former "Lost" star Michelle Rodriguez was sentenced to 60 days in the very same facility in which Paris is scheduled to do time for the very same offense -- probation violation over a DUI conviction. Rodriguez served a grand total of 2 hours before jail officials told her to get lost.

Stay tuned.
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But articles can be wrong?
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A lot of what you said in your post is true, Ruth

But I won't debate on this Celebrity much, as it is much better to debate with real critics.

and I'm not one of them.





nodisharmony :angel:

I dont want what I have written to sound as if I think she "deserves" preferential treatment, I just think it's a reality that she will need it.

I am fully aware that she did the crime, she is no better blah blah but the reality is she will be target because of who she is - Robert Downey Jr was in more than one altercation because of who he is.

I dont think it's an easy situation and it is a very emotional subject for many, myself included. I do think she should be punished, I dont think "she made a mistake" is a good enough reason but hey we all think very differently about it.

Tom I am so very sorry for your loss - I hope you are ok x

I agree with you completely.
Fair enough she does the time but she shouldn't have to deal with people picking on her.

So she should be treated differently from anyone else that did the same crime?

Chrizzle - most people I'm sure DON'T want to see any harm to Paris. I said that myself on posts in this very thread. As Sunny said, if it was over here, she would probably be in an open prison with low-risk offenders, and that would be the right thing. But the American penal system is different.

I do honestly hope that she gets the protection she needs while she is in prison, and I hope that she comes out unscathed and perhaps a better person for it.

I DON'T think that she should be allowed to 'get away' with her crime, because of the potential dangers to her while she is in prison - if we start thinking that, then that would mean that any celebrity could do exactly what they wanted and flout the law in whatever way they wanted, because we would not be able to send them to prison.

Tom - I am extremely sorry to hear about your friend. A friend of mine lost his wife when she was killed by a drunk driver last year, so feelings run high for me on this subject.

Thinking of you Tom - this must be a very hard time for your friend's family and friends.

I have just read in a newspaper about the detention center Paris is going to.
I quote:

:sad:

That's pretty typical of most prisons, unfortunately Chrizzle.

They are on about it on the news at the moment, and are saying that she will receive protection and they will be on their guard, precisely because of who she is. I am sure they are aware of the scrutiny that this will be under in the news, and as a result she will probably receive the best possible protection.

I do hope so.
I do want Paris to have some sort of punishment (well I dont WANT it, but you know), becauase I think it will avoid anything like this ever happening again.
But I really do not want her to get harmed, and I think its very mature and good to hear when the not so much fans of Paris think the same.

I dont think anyone wants to see her get hurt. I know I dont.

I am sure she wil receive extra protection

She did the crime so she should serve the time. I personally don't see the debate here. I think many people simply feel that she should get away with this because they like her. Also, I understand that the offence she's been convicted of was in violation of her parole so she will be unable to appeal. She's definitely going to serve time and I think she deserves. it. She's a repeat offender. Nuff said. I don't give flyin whatever for her safety, she should have thought of that before she vilolated her parole.

I think she 100% deserves to go to jail.
but i dont want the girl to get hurt.Sending a beautiful,rich girl into prison will almost garantee a "Paris raped" situation.Sad but true.

So the fans don't want her jailed its too horrid in jail for poor poor delicate paris.

OK then, apologist fans

No jail

She keeps on getting behind the wheel of a car when she is drunk

then

one day

she kills somebody while driving under the influence

What, pray tell, should be the correct punishment that time ?

Drop in clothing allowance ?
Hairdresser appointments dropped to 4 a week ?
She can't wear a diamond studded ankle bracelet on a Tuesday morning ?

So, hypothetically, what do you think would be the fair and just punishment for a celebrity you adore, that is a repeat offender and kills somebody ?

I think she should be treated the same as anyone else. I feel that daddy Hilton will somehow buy her out though or find some technicality to get her off. In the long run this will just make her bank balance boom & even if she isn't smiling now she will be as soon as she is out and raking in the cash. As she is a celeb I cannot see them mixing her with the scum of the earth...she will be kept away from all that I'm sure so I cannot see her getting attacked at all. Nobody is above the law and she does deserve to do the time.

you do the crime you do the time

she should go to a normal pison and do the time - will she **** be killed

has for he being famus - yer she stated out with being famus for her name but i think she is famus in her own right now weather people like it or not