I'd do it for the money, not the fame

If she's good looking, why not? That's actually a double win. (although I'd care about the money that comes with the fame, not the actual fame)

IF it was put to me that all my career dreams would come true in return for one night of being fondled then...yeah tbh. I know that must make me sound incredibly shallow and maybe it's because I'm a man that it seems less harmful.

**** Hollywood, filled with the worst type of people getting away with all kinds of deplorable ****, just cause they make films.

Fame no, Money yes

Honestly, probably yes. But that doesn't mean I think it's okay.

There are only a very small amount of things that get to touch my cornhole and Harvey Weinsteins cock is’nt one of them.

yes

I don't think so because I was never the type to put it about really. I think it's fine to sleep with someone if you fancy them but doing it for work is sleazy and I think it's something that would bother you afterwards.

its called prostitution.

Yeah definitely. It's only sex.

It's sexual harassment/blackmail and severe abuse of their position of power

its like the casting couch had not been invented

Yeah why not

All these women were so holier than thou so innocent none of them realised going up to his hotel room in the early hours could possibly lead to a kiss and a cuddle and who knows maybe a big role in a hollywood blockbuster
IF he is found guilty IN A LEGAL COURT ROOM, then by all means burn him at the stake and lock him away for a lengthy period
But clearly a load of the accusations are exaggerated politically correct drivel of events that happened years ago and taken way way out of context by a bitch slapped feminist media
IF he committed a crime then take it to the police and court and if guulty he will be arrested charged convicted
Why havent any of these so called brave women come forward in the last 30 years? probably because most were complicit in the flirting/sex that happened. I do not believe in trial by media or trial by twitter or facebook or by feminists...I believe in trial in a court room by law and innocent until proven guilty. Theres a zillion and one money grabbing kiss and tell women in hollywood as has been proven thousands of times...theres thousands fo false accusers, blackmailers, exaggerators trying to screw some money. IF some are legit then they have to do this through legit means and thats through the courts
The amount of biased out of context sanctimonious drivel spouted by the medie the luvvies, the actors trying to look oh so good all spouting the same thing without knowing any of the facts. all jumping on this mans grave now that hes sacked. whereas for the past 30 years theyve sucked at his teet. what a bunch of phonies. the people who dance on his grave are mostly sycophants and hypocrites. take ben affleck lol who the heck is he to moralise? who are any of them? go to court and shut the hell up

Poor him, what a victim he is of evil women

Nice heartless fake sentiment. I do pity the thousands of men falsely accused by lying women across the western world> and he false accusers are never brought to task, always get away with it and even remain annoymous. The list of false accusers is in the massive majority. Take poor old jimmy tarbuck or cliff richard to name but a few , he and his family went through hell and back for years based on a pack of lies from money grabbing women who remained anonymous. They even accused him of something in bbc in top of the pops 1963 in london when top of the pops was in manchester at the time? money grabbing liars.

what about all the 10000s of women who tear male pop stars clothes off for the past 50 years? should we retrospectively burn them all at the stake too?

mmhmm

Have I missed a news link or something? Thought this was a random debate but it seems theres a lot more to this and its a current story?

I assume the inspiration for the thread came from this news story here, that's literally everywhere right now Vicky :laugh:
https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/10/...einstein-fired

I see. I don't really watch TV or anything :laugh:

OK from that, I wouldn't say it was sexual harassment if these women chose to sleep with him to further their careers. Sounds a bit of a sleaze though.

And yes, I probably would still do it, if its what I wanted and I was single and stuff. Still see it as like half an hour (probably less) for the rest of your life :shrug:

That makes it ok to do though. It's basically saying to young actresses if you don't sleep with him the next girl will so basically if you don't do it wave good bye to a career type thing

Sleazy sure, I wouldn't say sexual harassment, which seems to be the complaint?

Its a fine line though, and certainly morally dubious

Also choosing not to sleep with this sleaze doesn't necessarily mean your career is over. Just you will have to try and get employed off someone else, who does not employ people based on sex. Want a fast track pass into the industry though, he is your guy. Ugh.

Rosanna Arquette, who starred in Pulp Fiction, told The New Yorker she had been supposed to meet Weinstein for dinner at a Beverly Hills hotel to pick up a script, but on arrival was told to go to his suite. He answered the door wearing a white bathrobe and saying he needed a massage. She said he grabbed her hand and pulled it towards his penis which was “visible and erect … My heart was really racing. I was in a fight-or-flight mode”. She said she told him: “I will never do that”, and that he responded by telling hershe was making a huge mistake. She claims her career later suffered.

Ambra Battilana Gutierrez, a Filipina-Italian model, was 22 when she was invited to Weinstein’s office in the Tribeca neighbourhood of New York. He lunged at her, groping her breasts and attempting to put a hand up her skirt while she protested. She went straight to the police. The New Yorker published an audio tape recorded when she was equipped with a NYPD wire tap. In the recording, Weinstein begs her to join him in his hotel room. She refuses and asks him why he had groped her breast the day before. “Oh, please, I’m sorry, just come on in. I’m used to that. Come on. Please,” he says. “You are used to that?” Gutierrez asks. “Yes,” Weinstein replies, later adding: “I won’t do it again”. He also says: “Don’t ruin your friendship with me for five minutes.”

https://www.theguardian.com/film/201...we-know-so-far

The New York DA had the tape that is currently being aired on TV of the actress clearly being coaxed into his room. At one point she comments on him touching her breast and he responds - I wont do it again. Seems like a bit of smoking gun to me and the actual story now is why didnt the DA prosecute him. That may be to do with the fact that actress in question had bit of a history.

Why didn't the New York D.A. pursue charges against Weinstein?

How Gossip Media Smeared Weinstein Accuser Ambra Battilana Gutierrez