Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 9678568)

It is a strange one though cause obviously if a stranger walks up and puts an arm round you your going to worry as a woman and check your wallet as a man.

But i see my work colleagues as mates, we socialise and laugh and joke together. Maybe im lucky, but if i put my arm round one of the girls they would know i was reasuring them.

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 9678559)

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There are also women who do this?

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9678574)

No but they're also not necessarily "friends", and I think most people have a good sense of who they have an actual friendship with, and who they only know in a work capacity.

Its pretty much general knowledge that it's not appropriate to be over-familiar with work colleagues, especially subordinates, who are not also an out-of-work friend surely? And it's that way for a good reason, e.g. People will play along or pretend not to be uncomfortable with something if it's a superior, out of fear of losing their job or being otherwise penalised in some way (e.g. Being given a tonne of extra work, or all of the crappy menial tasks) which does also happen.

I have zero sympathy for anyone who breaks this "rule"... Like I said, it's standard workplace etiquette? If they choose to ignore it and lose their job... That's their own choice? If they start claiming that they "didn't know it was inappropriate" then they should probably lose their job anyway, because they are stupid, incompetent, and not suitable to be in charge of employees.

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 9678575)

Yes,that is how I feel about this, where do we draw a line ? I mean things said on here in jest sometimes could be offensive to some ?

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 9678575)

Yes,that is how I feel about this, where do we draw a line ? I mean things said on here in jest sometimes could be offensive to some ?

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9678580)

We draw the line with common sense surely? Everyone knows who their friends are... Don't they?? Parm knows it would be fine with people he works with because he knows them and knows that they have a friendly relationship as well as a working one.

Its not like "Oh it should just be fine for everyone to touch everyone else because no one knows who their friends are".

I mean... And I'm assuming here... But I doubt that if a new girl started and got upset on her first day, Parm would run over and give her a big ol' hug :think:. I hope not, anyway.

Originally Posted by waterhog (Post 9678584)

being discussed now 1040am wrightstuff ch5 ?

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9678499)

"Look at all these threads about race, no one cares about sexism or attacks on women!"

*Someone makes a thread about women being harassed in the workplace*

"No no no, that's the wrong KIND of thread about women, it has to be about them being attacked by Evil Muslims blehhh or Evil Labour. I can't believe you don't care about attacks on women by minorities and labour members, disgusting."

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9679331)

I am shocked to be honest, I would have thought the abuses of position wouldn't have been downplayed to this extent, this if anything is a snapshot of the double standard within 'society'.

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 9679362)

That sort of thing being classed as anything beyond "stupid comments" trivializes actual harassment, and makes me doubt the seriousness of non-detailed claims.

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9679363)

Yes it does, I really can't understand why the Micheal Fallon's case is taking precedence over Bex Bailey if it really was just about knee touching and inappropriate but ultimately not particularly intimidating suggestiveness

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 9679375)

If I was given to conspiracies, I'd say it's because one involves the left, and one the right.

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9679421)

I have just been informed that :creep: has has to step down from it's job as a smilie on TiBB due to overt suggestiveness

anyone who has used this smilie in any context needs to be very afraid :worry:

:eyes: Marsh

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9679337)

I know what you mean. It's like that thread on here of the New York attack this week where 8 people were murdered, not even 2 full pages of comments. Compare that to the thread earlier in the year with the Charlottesville one where there was 1 victim, that thread went on for pages with anger.

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9679421)

I have just been informed that :creep: has has to step down from it's job as a smilie on TiBB due to overt suggestiveness

anyone who has used this smilie in any context needs to be very afraid :worry:

:eyes: Marsh

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 9678557)

But are fellow employees strangers?

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 9678575)

I mean things said on here in jest sometimes could be offensive to some ?

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9679555)

Spot on Alf. Notice how there were no responses to that obvious anomaly.