Oh give over trying to justify your slip up. :hee:

That's the way you interpreted my post and you have taken it out of context . The fact is I AM concerned about the people who'll lose their jobs, the businesses that will go under because they haven't been paid, all the people who are stressing right now about their futures while the bosses of this company are still being paid their inflated salaries and bonuses. That's my context. The fact that I don't like Kizzy is neither here nor there. Had anyone posted a "Yay" post I'd have said exactly the same thing. And I stand by that.

Give over baiting and stick to the topic.

How rude, you don't know me Livia.

You don't know, or like me either. It is what it is.

I don't agree with your views on many things I don't however allow that to colour my thinking and reaction to every single topic!

Right.

Like I said, I'll only respond in future if you quote me. I just want to have a laugh on here, not a battle.

Deflection is an art for politicians.
However Leeds council DIDN'T sign any contract with them as Corbyn stated when Mrs May tried to deflect from truth to cover her own govts. ineptitude.

Well done to you for how you deal with such deflections too Kizzy.
I think it very revealing when attacks on a person are made rather than who or what are really to blame.
Good for you and all well said by you too.

Great, that's not the impression I get from this thread but if that's how you see it that's totally fine by me.

I think we have to consider both sides to this coin.

Yes, its terrible for the workers, though the contracts will be put out to tender and the likelihood of continuing within another company on a familiar project is quite high.
Different for the pensioners. All this limited liability has made sure they are going to suffer the consequences.

The other side of the coin is the corruption and that is something we should all be taking seriously because its not just Carillion that are setting up vast business empires on limited liability. The more our government encourages unfettered markets, the more we move away from being a democratic country. Democracy requires rules and guidelines that restrict the power of money. If they don't do that, then its open to corruption and with corruption comes stagnation and economy crashes. Carillion just fell out of the void thats been created by neoliberalism, a government who has massive monopolies working for the few, not the many. Its important, crucial in fact that we understand why this happened and so although we could spend our time talking about all the poor sods caught up in the fallout, its not the only thing we should be discussing.

And Kizzy, thank you for bringing this topic up on here, though its sad it can't be discussed without you being 'once again' attacked. I'm so sick of seeing people on here baying for your blood when all you are attempting to do is put your views forward and you do that with intelligence btw. I, like Joey, have your back (though I know your a toughie and don't need us!) You are a lot more restrained than I am but that's why I sometimes have to take a break from this place... it gets depressing.