Yes. God forbid GoldHeart use the forum for it's intended purpose :umm2:

And I'll still find it irritating as **** :umm2: :umm2:

Exactly.

I wonder what he'll say if Ann goes and people continue to behave exactly as they do now?

Now we're starting to see the bigger picture. Andrew, Malika and Rachel all saying the same thing. It's three people and not just one!

I will add Shane to that list of people.

Everyone on this forum has a moan about who they dislike in CBB get over it :sleep:

You know where the ignore button is x

"has a moan" - it's literally your post history love

i'm glad other housemates are starting to speak up. now malika need to stay. hoping rachel stays now. they will speak up.

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I think Rachel's a dead cert to go unfortunately which is a shame :(

Hopefully one of them will survive the eviction and continue to speak up.

It depends how the task changes things. The save and replace.

Honestly he was right about Ann at the end of the show - she proved him right in that very moment. :joker:

But still, definitely self-obsessed. Keeps annoying me more and more.

So that make Malika and Rahcel also self obsessed. They both talk about Ann. :hee:

Tbf Andrew & Rachel are two of the most self-obsessed in there with "my way or the highway" mentality. And Ann has challenged them & their ways. So that just makes sense really and doesn't prove anything about Ann. (idk about Malika)

Of course, anyone who challenges Ann is self obsessed. Got it! :pipe:

I think he's finding his role as the Alpha male too comfortable, nothing more. He's saying Ann is trying to control the house, but he's slowly trying to pick people off the others and create a little clique where he can undermine people emotionally (and energetically/personality-wise here). That's his boat she's trying to rock... he's annoyed he can't do the very thing that he's claiming that Ann is.

Other than that, I wouldn't say he is intentionally being calculating. I think he's playing to his character (super confident brah) and trying to get more camera time since he is up for nom... grab dat chick vote

You can't even say anything about Ann without being accused of being self obsessed or a game player. As much as i like Ann, this is the kind of thing that is putting me off her. There's no debate anymore, just accusations. And that's sad.

And in a way I kinda understand Ann's need to keep an eye on the girls... I mean, by now the garden would be overflowing with showmances and she's helping to keep them on the straight and narrow. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. It has a very kind and protective vibe to it... and maybe the girls feel secure somewhat with her around, because she's got that nana vibe going on. I think it is an interesting dynamic and I'm chuckling at what a cockblock she's become in some ways :laugh:...

But some of them have said they find Ann controlling. And its not just Andrew. Malika and Rachel both said it.

Who is "you"? Me?

Ok

No, i mean in general. As soon as you try to make a point in here you then find ten threads, all saying i hate Andrew. Impossible to debate.

Oh... I like Ann, but I don't have as much issue with Andrew as some on the board. I don't think either is being controlling. I think it's a house and you can't always get along :shrug:... Ann is being Ann, and Andrew is being Andrew and both of them are oil and water--he's young and wants to flirt and be merry... and Ann, I think she has a reputation she feels she needs to keep up--which is understandable with her background.