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Had Ann had her way lgbt rights would never have improved. |
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We haven't exactly got the most lovable and exciting bunch of HMs in there just now so sometimes you are able to overlook someone's views if they are a good enough HM and also don't make a big deal about their views in the house
Ann's biggest issue has been bad language and people being crude - the only time she's ever brought up like woman's rights or LGBT issues is when they were asked if her and her to explain, and at the time she got a lot of hate and criticism for it But people like Andrew constantly hating on her whilst she's talking good of him make her seem like a better person / and to people like I say, don't hate, educate |
Never said i speaking for everyone , i clearly said i feel she is Homophobic. I am not saying i dislike her but feel she is being let off for her comments because of her age.
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I Do agree that she is homophobic but if she provides good TV then I'll want her to stay in - am I going to vote for her or want her to win? No but the show would die without her
Cardi B defended her homophobic man, does that mean I'm gonna stop listening to Bodak Yellow everyday? No! |
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Nothing in Ann screams hatred towards LGBT, she has calm and collected talks with Shane J in the house about these issues, something that a real homophobe would never do. As someone who's dealt with real homophobia, I worry that your sheltered voice of 'anyone who disagrees with us is a homophobe and should have no friends' is a lot more harmful than a 70 year old lady that has never raised her voice once in the house. You can't just assume that because we have more rights and representation now, that everyone has to fall in line. People are allowed to disagree with homosexuality in the same way that people are allowed to disagree with pineapple on pizza. Ann lived the majority of her life in a world that oppressed gay people, in a world where LGBT had no rights. It's only natural that the change we've seen over the past few decades is going to come across as strange to somebody like that. Instead of labelling people as 'hateful' and 'homophobic' and scaring people off voicing their opinions, focus on educating people who are living in the past. It makes a mockery of ANY community when that community starts disregarding every single person that disagrees with them. Do you think we got to where we are today by screaming 'HOMOPHOBE' at everyone who cringes at two guys making out? No, we got to where we are today through debates, through the votes that Ann took part in, through discussion and most importantly through education. Let the old lady eat her biccies in peace. :nono: |
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Hurray for common sense, enlightenment and intelligence. |
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but two men kissing or marrying is just not some people's cup of tea, just as some gay people think that a straight couple kissing or marrying is just not appealing, now throwing a card at ann is just not fair, does she say that gays should be killed no, because years ago derick and kemal tried to throw that card on science and they looked like fools in the end, and science did say that you can do what you like when kemal said that two men kissing and holding hands, ann is comfortable with gay people but there are things that they do that just don't appeal to her as mush as what some of the young ones say in there, and ann had a reason for voting shane because they where doing the samething over and over again, and being stuck in that house 24/7 it can get boring.
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But marriage? What's that got to do with it? Nobody's forced her to attend a gay wedding have they? Oh, but wait she's against heterosexual marriage too? Oh BUT WAIT, she thinks people should only adopt when in a stable marriage, HETEROSEXUAL MARRIAGE. Nope, not homophobic. Just a bit fussy. |
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she's homophobic it's not rocket science
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I hate how words get thrown around , if anything education is needed for understanding what "homophobia" actually is before accusing people of it . Another word that's thrown around alot is "bully" and its usually if someone is just opinionated towards people . That's not what a bully is :facepalm: , infact both homophobia & bullying involve hatred , intimidation and verbal abuse /physical attacking . We live in a world now that's overly PC and people end up walking on egg shells in fear of hurting or saying the wrong thing . |
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Ann has her views , she's not going to change them to fit into a scared overly PC world where people are too frightened to express themselves, so they jump on the bandwagons instead :bored:. She's a 70 year old who doesn't need to please people for the sake of it . She wouldn't give Shane J the time of day if she hated him/his sexuality , she has sat down and listened and had discussions . If she was soo prejudice she wouldn't bother and she'd probably avoid Shane J all together . She even tried to be understanding with India . |
Eh idk how to define homophobia exactly but I'd probably say she's homophobic but not in a way that requires outrage. Nothing about Ann is malicious or harmful she just has OLD views on a lot of things. She's an old lady coming from a different time and sticks to her religious beliefs. It'd be different if she made disgusting comments on it or was purposely hateful towards the gay people around her but that's just not the case from what we've seen. There are different levels to things you know.
I don't blame people if they take offense and dislike her for her views but I like her for being straightforward, putting people in their place, being both intentionally and unintentionally/ironically funny in many instances and just generally not giving a sh!t. :joker: |
she gets away with it because she is quite hideously ugly.
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