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chuff me dizzy 01-02-2018 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Marches (Post 9840958)
Because there is very little information about gender dysphoria online because more often than not medical proffesionals dismiss it as not a medical illness, which I believe to be false from seeing the sucide rates/people recounting their experiences with the condition

Which it isn't

chuff me dizzy 01-02-2018 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Paula D (Post 9840967)
As someone who's been waiting for an operation for 3 1/2 years now for something that affects me both physically and mentally I'd have to agree with Ann.

Priorities have to be set where's there's a limited amount of money.

Exactly Paula .. Medical ALWAYS should come first, anything else should be paid for yourself, . India bragged that £14,000 had been spent on her "chosen" op ,while people like you are sat waiting in pain or discomfort

Marches 01-02-2018 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9840970)
so then the argument about suicide rates is irrelevant.

India is not all, and is a poor representative, of the trans community

Marches 01-02-2018 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9840972)
No one is doubting anything, the debate is about priority in the NHS

maybe if you read the thread instead of jumping in on your little tykes bandwagon you would contribute to it?

Why do most of the people on this forum have to be so aggro when they post? Why would people feel incentified to contribute to it if they talk about something they care about and get shut down?

bots 01-02-2018 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Marches (Post 9840979)
India is not all, and is a poor representative, of the trans community

I've seen you post the % of suicide rates pre treatment, what were they post treatment? That is where any benefit is highlighted. Without both figures, the statistic is meaningless.

chuff me dizzy 01-02-2018 10:40 AM

Anyone who thinks the money spent on India was justified need to sit back and take stock .. Does she look like a woman ? No she doesn't .. Does she act like a woman ? No she doesn't .Is she happy? No she isn't ...So all that money that could have been spent on cancer treatment was wasted on her

GoldHeart 01-02-2018 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9840968)
Do people think India is a well adjusted, stable person after her treatment?

India is a very unstable argumentative person.
She still has issues she needs to sort out , whether that's because she transitioned so late in her life who knows.

But NHS is there for serious medical conditions and illnesses :nono: . It's not there exclusively for gender reasignments .

chuff me dizzy 01-02-2018 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 9841019)
India is a very unstable argumentative person.
She still has issues she needs to sort out , whether that's because she transitioned so late in her life who knows.

But NHS is there for serious medical conditions and illnesses :nono: . It's not there exclusively for gender reasignments .

If he had the op to feel better about himself he's wasted NHS money because Ive never seen a more bitter, miserable woman

Niamh. 01-02-2018 10:51 AM

Can people stick to the topic please....it's not eachother

Greg! 01-02-2018 10:52 AM

Niamh isn't transphobia against forum rules like other forms of prejudice?

Cherie 01-02-2018 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg! (Post 9841030)
Niamh isn't transphobia against forum rules like other forms of prejudice?

you mean like ageism

Greg! 01-02-2018 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9841034)
you mean like ageism

Yes but I'm not sure what that's got to do with this thread.

Cherie 01-02-2018 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg! (Post 9841035)
Yes but I'm not sure what that's got to do with this thread.

You mentioned forum rules in general so it is very relevant

chuff me dizzy 01-02-2018 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9841034)
you mean like ageism

Love it :joker: In going to get myself a "phobia" or an" ist" when i go Tesco on Saturday then i can demand special treatment

Niamh. 01-02-2018 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg! (Post 9841030)
Niamh isn't transphobia against forum rules like other forms of prejudice?

This is a discussion about the NHS and whether or not people believe it should be paying for these operations, people are allowed have an opinion on that, I understand this is a sensitive subject but I'm not going to shut down peoples opinions on it unless they're being deliberately offensive

Greg! 01-02-2018 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9841038)
You mentioned forum rules in general so it is very relevant

Okay. :)

Greg! 01-02-2018 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9841040)
This is a discussion about the NHS and whether or not people believe it should be paying for these operations, people are allowed have an opinion on that, I understand this is a sensitive subject but I'm not going to shut down peoples opinions on it unless they're being deliberately offensive

I meant Chuff's misgendering of India

Greg! 01-02-2018 10:57 AM

And sorry but many of the posts are "deliberately offensive"

chuff me dizzy 01-02-2018 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9841040)
This is a discussion about the NHS and whether or not people believe it should be paying for these operations, people are allowed have an opinion on that, I understand this is a sensitive subject but I'm not going to shut down peoples opinions on it unless they're being deliberately offensive

When we pay into the NHS every month I fell we have a right to discuss if its been used as it should be

Niamh. 01-02-2018 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg! (Post 9841042)
I meant Chuff's misgendering of India

Well, the way I read Chuffs post, it seemed to me like she was differentiating between India pre and post op as she refers to her as a woman post op

Greg! 01-02-2018 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9841045)
Well, the way I read Chuffs post, it seemed to me like she was differentiating between India pre and post op as she refers to her as a woman post op

That's really not the way most people would read it

chuff me dizzy 01-02-2018 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9841045)
Well, the way I read Chuffs post, it seemed to me like she was differentiating between India pre and post op as she refers to her as a woman post op

Thats right I did, but don't let facts get in the way :joker: I used HE before the op ( When Jonathon wasn't happy ) and SHE after the op ( When India still wasn't happy)

GoldHeart 01-02-2018 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg! (Post 9841042)
I meant Chuff's misgendering of India

I think chuff meant pre- op as before India became a woman ,she was a HE .

Niamh. 01-02-2018 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg! (Post 9841047)
That's really not the way most people would read it

How do you know how other people would read it Greg? It makes sense to read it that way for the point she was trying to make

Greg! 01-02-2018 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9841050)
Thats right I did, but don't let facts get in the way :joker: I used HE before the op ( When Jonathon wasn't happy ) and SHE after the op ( When India still wasn't happy)

Not to be pedantic but you said "he's" wasted NHS money


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