Russia has repeatedly condemned Saudi airstrikes and firmly support a peaceful resolution, unlike America who immediately took sides with the Saudis. If the Russians were going to support anyone or sell arms to anyone it would be pro-Iran factions.

I’m sure they’d be happy to sell arms to almost anyone for the right price.

Well they clearly haven't. As protectorates of Iran and the only reason the West isn't obliterating Iran, they have taken the side of the Shiite but from my research, they haven't yet provided them with arms.

I wouldn't suggest we "destroy" anyone, but if we close our doors to the Saudis, we should do so to the Middle East. And I didn't necessarily mean they would openly announce war, but just send more terrorists our way through asylum or otherwise normal immigration.

But that would suggest that we are holding their hands to prevent further terrorism on our small island. We are holding their hand because of money. Money therefore is worth more than random lives. Some people can accept that, I can't.

I don't necessarily think we're "holding hands" to specifically prevent terrorism, but terrorism will possibly be a consequence of letting go.

So Oliver, are you saying we are doing this out of fear?

No, for money and oil mainly.

Russia were quite happy to sell weapons to Iraq during Saddam's time, the country whom Iran were at war with almost constantly, so they didn't give a crap then about arming anyone

..sadly I’m feeling the Brexit vote will only make these unsavoury foreign relations deals become more and more for the UK government specifically...that Brexit won’t make for ‘’independance’ at all...we haven’t given ourselves more freedom of ‘selectivity’ in foreign trade deals, surely...?...what we’ve done..(..as a nation’s vote..)...is tied and bonded ourselves more and more to these kinds of deals which cause so much life loss...

Its not only Russia that make irresponsible arms transfers. Russia, USA, Germany, China, France, Germany and the UK all inadvertently armed ISIS.

If the West didn’t do deals with the Saudis can you honestly see Russian arms manufacturers passing up lucrative contracts with them?I can’t.
Money trumps politics.

I'm glad the penny is propping for some, if we are not trading with our closest allies and neighbours in Europe the ones for whom it has always been assured we had the 'shared values' with whom will we trade?... Where will the workforce we so desperately need come from.... Outside Europe, from those countries with dubious at best human rights records, or no human rights at all. How will that affect out workers rights?

The leavers who voted leave in the hope that indeed their passports will be blue and faces white are going to be VERY dissapointed :/

So it doesn't matter is you are complicit in the killing of innocent people for money? Right so from now on should I hear on this forum any mention of anyone cosying up to anyone as they align themselves with those who kill I will just quote this. Thank you.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...bia-high-court

I dont think that is a concern here

What is this - an attempt to excuse ISIS themselves for their own actions and simply blame the West yet again.

ok

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Well its obviously not a concern to you but please don't speak for us all.

Why would that be excusing ISIS. Do you actually know anything about ISIS. How they formed, how they got the arms they needed? If you think the history behind how ISIS grew is somehow excusing them, you need to go and have a serious word with yourself.

Far from it.
But don't you think that the West has a duty of care as to where their weapons may end up? I mean possible likely scenarios. Saudi-wahhabism-terror groups link has been open secret for decades. As the west we constantly put ourselves on moral high ground and interfere in other countries based on that. It's only right we make sure and apply our highly moral stance to arms sales.

Spare me! I don’t need to have a word with myself as I simply don’t care about any of it.

So it doesn't matter if you are complicit in the killing of innocent people as long as you don't do it for money?

I know you don't but you still have this urge to make me out as a terrorist sympathizer!

In what universe did I say it didn't matter if you are complicit in the killing of innocent people as long as it wasn't for money....I know for damn sure it wasn't this one!

Do not put words in my mouth please!