As a sovereign country we can't allow foreign powers to execute people here as they please. It's a matter of principle. We'd be a laughing stock if we did.

Sure
but they will never have 100% Proof
as another nation may have done this
using bought Russian Nerve Gear
or made their own Nerve Gear in another nation,
then the UK would be in the wrong.

Russia 'highly likely' to be behind spy poisoning, PM says

https://news.sky.com/story/live-pm-s...eting-11286994

Lol. Literally nothing at all.

The investigation is not over, let's see what they find out.

Of course
but be this Weds
the PM has a Conclusion
much the same as she has spoken right now.


Russia is one nation that makes the nerve gear
What about the Others?

Nerve agents are highly controlled. This particular variant was Russian state manufactured. That's all we really need to know. It is the Russian states responsibility.

As to what we can do about it, there is nothing we can do that has any meaningful consequence.

Yes that was stated days ago.
Of Course ,Russia says they did not do it
So the PM must do something herself,
Expel Russian Diplomats, should be one measure


Will that change anything?

UK Diplomats in Russia will then get kicked out etc

She could do something, the question is whether she's up to it.
I mean freezing assets etc

I think it was a mistake not to do more after Litvinienko. Putin felt he could get away with it so he carried on.

That was a New Labour feck Up.

Putin will be Elected again on Sunday
no one can stop him.
Blair got on well with Putin (as shown in the recent BBC2HD Docu on Putin)

right

Sure Nicky
but its not against the Russian Nation


Its a about the the Leader Putin.

:laugh: Lolling with you because I agree - ZILCH.

Well, of course he will be elected.
UK's (Con and Lab, and the West in general) attitude to Russia is not consistent and Putin takes advantage.

is it a lolling matter? :shrug:
so you think we should not do anything?

Corbyn has proved he is not fit to be a PM, his forte is always going to be that of a mud slinging backbencher. Thank goodness other Labour members realised the significance of what had happened and showed their disgust at his pathetic opportunistic point scoring speech.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...t-opportunism/

Theresa May vs Putin

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I am worried. Russia could be dangerous.

The UK is in literally no position to do anything at all about Russia, and certainly not over what I'm sorry to say is (in global terms) a very minor incident.

I can only assume that the idea that the UK can "do something about" Russia stems from the same place as someone's lusicrous suggestion in another thread that Britain is a "global super power"; i.e. A complete misunderstanding of where we sit on the global hierarchy. Like someone forgot to post the memo that Britain WAS powerful at the height of the British empire... But those days are over.

So it's not really a matter of "should" morally, I guess. We CAN'T "do anything about Russia", and we shouldn't try because the attempt would cause nothing but harm.

DEFINITELY not over something that is quite blatantly an internal Russian political issue that happens to have spilled over. Its not like they're attacking the UK.

yeah Putin, he's like a god so damn hot :drool: :love:

We can do things like asset freezing, throwing out diplomats, making it more difficult for Russians to enter the UK. We can say ... hey Russia, we are jolly upset about this. Will that stop them doing it again? No. Will it inconvenience them? Maybe a little. That's about it.

The world cup is being hosted in Russia so lets boycott it ..... Politics should never ever interfere with sport. So, it's a big No No. Let's show Russia how upset we are by stopping Prince William attending .... yeah that's really going to cause a seismic shock.

The bottom line is we can implement measures as a face saving exercise, but they will mean squat to anyone.

But Russia IS still a super-power and also a huge marketplace... So yeah, we could put sanctions on them, technically... Except that the UK ceasing trade would have an insignificant impact on the Russia economy, would have MORE impact on the UK economy (although to be fair still not very significant) and would basically be kicking the bear for a frankly not very good reason. I mean I know it might seem bad but every country is involved in political assassination, its naive to think otherwise. It would be different if they had assassinated a UK political figure or something but... Basically, this is just internal Russian crap that happened to spill over into a UK city. Obviously the fact that a UK police officer was collateral damage is horrendous, but again, let's not start pretending that all countries aren't guilty of causing significant collateral damage in other nations.

:laugh: Really Nicky ? He could go in the 'weird crush' thread.

I tend to agree.I reckon British,US,Russian and god knows how many other countries secret services have been doing this stuff for years.Only when Russia does it they do it not so covertly.They use nerve agents and radioactive materials which they know will be traced back to them.I think they do it this way to send a message.Just like when they send aircraft and ships over to ping our radar.
The problem with their methods is that they ramp up tensions.They force our PM into a situation where she has to react somehow so we as a country don’t appear weak.It also gets our politicians putting huge pressure on the PM to ‘do something’.Our problem is that there’s not much we can do unilaterally.It has to be a Nato response to have any impactful effect.As you say though it’s not wise to poke the bear too much over something like this I don’t think.The PM is in a tricky situation really.

It will be interesting to see if Russia respond to the PMs midnight deadline.