Originally Posted by MB. (Post 9929491)

Liked tweets can appear on the timelines of JK's followers, there's no 'stalking' involved

Originally Posted by MB. (Post 9929493)

But regardless, she's still a high profile media figure who would use a platform like Twitter with that in mind... I can't imagine she wouldn't be conscious of the fact that anything she likes/retweets would be construed as an endorsement/reflection of her views, and when something relatively controversial slips through the net, then there would have almost definitely been a reason behind that

Originally Posted by MB. (Post 9929501)

Yeah, there's definitely a line that can be, and has been, crossed many times in that respect, I agree... I think it's just, unfortunately, part and parcel of being so high profile, though, as if your personal opinions (or the public's perception of what your personal opinions are, based on the little they can get) automatically become public and subject to whatever scrutiny social media is able to throw at them

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9929540)

I think, unlike racism and homophobia, theres a lack of understanding as to what constitutes as transphobia. People seem to be unintentionally transphobic far more often than any ism or phobia before.

Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 9929544)

That is because to a lot of.people this is a fairly new ism as its only recently come to the fore of the media etc. I completely agree with Dezzy that there appears to be a lot of anger in the trans community and that is having a negative impact at the moment. Shouting loudest doesn't mean you get heard. Educating people is the key, not vilifying. Transphobia will soon become as abhorrent to most as racism and homophobia if people are educated and understand. Being attacked for what are sometimes quite unintentional comments will only cause further alienation imo

Originally Posted by Greg! (Post 9929451)

Oh what a coincidence that she's "accidentally" done this before.

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9929490)

It sounds to me like the original tweet was probably referring to that labour mess where a trans person who hadn't go through the transition was made Women's officer which is quite ridiculous. Post op, I could understand that calling them a man in a dress is transphobic but if you haven't started transitioning then the term 'man in a dress' is quite....well....factual?

The trans community is cannabilising itself by attacking anyone and everyone that makes a mistake or says something ignorant whether or not the ignorance is innocent or not, people are just gonna push back against trans rights and such if it continues. People like the journalist quoted above by Marsh need to realise that you don't win hearts and minds by attacking people until they do what you say. Gay rights have come as far as they have, not through the gays attacking anyone and everyone but through education and understanding over the generations. in most countries where gay rights have been written into law, it wouldn't have been enough for just the gays to demand it, it's the allies that have helped push Gay Rights acts into law. Allies are vital and you don't create allies and dispel ignorance by screaming at people to do what you say.

Originally Posted by Greg! (Post 9929451)

Oh what a coincidence that she's "accidentally" done this before.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9929459)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/20...1848103267.jpg

Yes, aggressively ordering someone to do what you want is definitely the way to go about it.

Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 9929544)

That is because to a lot of.people this is a fairly new ism as its only recently come to the fore of the media etc. I completely agree with Dezzy that there appears to be a lot of anger in the trans community and that is having a negative impact at the moment. Shouting loudest doesn't mean you get heard. Educating people is the key, not vilifying. Transphobia will soon become as abhorrent to most as racism and homophobia if people are educated and understand. Being attacked for what are sometimes quite unintentional comments will only cause further alienation imo

Originally Posted by Maru (Post 9929488)

Yeah... I find it pretty disturbing actually. That someone would monitor and put so much emotional effort into analyzing someones particular views and motives... Twitter is the absolute worst for enabling these stalker types. Thankfully I can just deregister from there without it affecting my work... there's just something not right about the way people are carrying on on these sites.

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9929574)

Ms Gwendoline Smith sounds very controlling with a hint of ‘I dare you’ in that message - almost menacing. Dare I say it - what a hypocrite.

Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 9929591)

If the passive aggressive in the tweet is a journalist she could start with learning to spell hear correctly.

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9929540)

I think, unlike racism and homophobia, theres a lack of understanding as to what constitutes as transphobia. People seem to be unintentionally transphobic far more often than any ism or phobia before.

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9929669)

I think what the trans community really needs to understand is that ignorance does not always come from a place of malice. Going on the attack against people who simply aren't well versed on the subject will just likely turn potential allies against the cause. Helping people understand is how you win hearts and minds, ostracising them essentially just alienates them from the cause and gives ammunition to the people who are maliciously opposed to trans rights and people.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9929727)

id agree with that

Originally Posted by Greg! (Post 9929451)

Oh what a coincidence that she's "accidentally" done this before.

Originally Posted by Ashley. (Post 9929743)

I wouldn't want to undress next to a stranger with a penis either.