It was a twist that brought Paul back in the first place and handed him three weeks of safety. Although I get where you're coming from. That's why I'm not getting my hopes up for this all new cast because it may well be as bad as last year's or the current season of BBCAN.

yeah that's true :joker:

if they taken away the Paul twist or did someone better,kept the other twist and a different casting director then BB19 could have been good? I use to like Robyn Kass but on the two seasons she didn't cast for they have been better than the main show :laugh:

Which two seasons didn't she cast for?

Over The Top and Celebrity Big Brother

Let ha go

I'd be here for Robyn Kass going. At first I thought the reason for BBUS casts sucking was Grodner's toxic influence since Robyn Kass cast BBCAN quite well, but then this BBCAN cast sucks so maybe she's just lost it

Derrick's wife, Raven's mother and Frankie's nonna incoming?

It doesn't completely suck. Imo it represents the absolute best and absolute worst of BB casting. The HG's are either in my Top 30/35 or my Bottom 10/15 and there's no inbetween.

The likes of Ali, Liv, Johnny, Erica, Veronica, Hamza, and Kirsten and Mikey (if cast) are great characters that can hold their own stories, are prepared to fight and are likeable/rootable to an extent.

You've got Kaela who's a good player but not a nice person and not someone I enjoy watching.

Then you've got Maddy, Paras, Will, Ryan (imo), Merron (imo) and Andrew where some may be likeable but aren't they kind I'd like to see play BBCAN because they may make terrible decisions, float, or just cry every episode (yes, I am looking at you, Maddy).

The problem with the casting nowadays is that people aren't cast based on whether or not they would make a good contestant, they're cast based on how much they replicate a previous contestant. The cast always looks the same and it's been that way for years.

The alpha white guy
The flirty blonde with big tits
The gay guy
The Nerdy one
The tom boy
The girl who says she wants to make a girls alliance then sleeps with a guy all season
The over the top black women
Southern bell/guy

All stereotypical. Give me season 2 or 10 cast any day... variety or different ages, race and beliefs.

Me

But yeah, it's like they have a list of the same old archetypes that they try to tick off each year.

the casting is probably the main reason why BBUS is my least favorite of the BBs that i watch

no variety at all

i stan like 1 person every 5 seasons

Yeah there were some people with potential but they all left early. But this cast still doesn't live up to previous casts where even if good people left early there were still enough interesting personalities left to make the show watchable. This season doesn't have that

I agree with most except this. When have we had this?

Elena?

We've had it in double too

The Nolan Twins? :love:

I guess Elena... but she wasn’t blonde!

The Nolan Twins:skull: They didn’t have big boobs!

the black gals are more often bible chicks than loud personalities.

the premiere date hasn't been announced by the way.

It's been announced by March usually. so all of this is odd.

Would be interesting if they're going with a live launch or it's being held up because we're choosing the cast.

What was Grodner's exact wording about a new cast?

If she just said "it's an all new cast" she could've just meant the obvious that it's another new season = another new cast in an attempt to hide that it's All Stars. :fc:

BB20 talk starts at 13:40... She specifically says NO ALL STARS and that it's an all new cast...

Booooo

And I don't normally care too much whether there's returnees or newbies but I was very much in the mood for an All Stars season this year :fist:

i guess it will be better than the dull rubbish BBUK on the horrible channel 5


i am more perched for BBUSA now than BBUK