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Ruth 24-05-2007 03:15 PM

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Originally posted by Arneldo
I'm confused about the whole thing.

From what Ive read Jade, Jack, Jo & Dani where all wrong in what they said. Jo, Jack & Danielle said some thing which, imo, where racist. I don't think anything Jade has said was racist. Although i do think she acted like a jealous bully. I feel disappointed by Endemol. I don't see why they lied to the police and didn't hand over all tapes. Maybe its good n away because if this had come out when this was a big talking point i think they could have gotten more then a slap on the wrist and asked to say sorry. I see a lot of people are bringing up what Davina said on O'Grady, but i don't think you can really hold it against her. She just repeated what she was told.
Yes, but don't you think they should have had to do more than just give an apology? They were there denying that anything racist had ever been said, and now it turns out that they were talking c**p. And effectively they've got away with it.:bored:

I agree with your point about Davina. I doubt that she personally was lying; she was probably saying what she believed to be true. She's just endemol's puppet anyway.

Arneldo 24-05-2007 03:21 PM

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Originally posted by Ruth
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Originally posted by Arneldo
I'm confused about the whole thing.

From what Ive read Jade, Jack, Jo & Dani where all wrong in what they said. Jo, Jack & Danielle said some thing which, imo, where racist. I don't think anything Jade has said was racist. Although i do think she acted like a jealous bully. I feel disappointed by Endemol. I don't see why they lied to the police and didn't hand over all tapes. Maybe its good n away because if this had come out when this was a big talking point i think they could have gotten more then a slap on the wrist and asked to say sorry. I see a lot of people are bringing up what Davina said on O'Grady, but i don't think you can really hold it against her. She just repeated what she was told.
Yes, but don't you think they should have had to do more than just give an apology? They were there denying that anything racist had ever been said, and now it turns out that they were talking c**p. And effectively they've got away with it.:bored:

I agree with your point about Davina. I doubt that she personally was lying; she was probably saying what she believed to be true. She's just endemol's puppet anyway.
Well, what else can they do?

spacebandit 24-05-2007 03:41 PM

To clairify something I posted re. Davina on Paul O Grady -

not suggesting Davina lied herself per se, I was suggesting she spouted the Endemol party line and saying what she was told to say / what she had been told - when the subject came up.

But the OFCOM report raises some pretty serious questions about Endemols co-operation with the police investigation.

Mrluvaluva 24-05-2007 04:03 PM

They didn't release the tapes because BB is now headline news again less than 1 week before BB8 launch. How convenient. More free press. Coincidence?

eyeonu 24-05-2007 04:39 PM

BB must apology!!
 
according to C5 news they will have to apologise 3 times for the race row in January!!

They will have to apologise on....

1.launch night
2.Highlights of launch
3.First eviction

Do you think they should still have to?

Jake! 24-05-2007 04:43 PM

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Captain.Remy 24-05-2007 04:44 PM

and why do they have to apologise about the launch night ? and the first eviction ? :conf2:

Lil-Lindz 24-05-2007 04:45 PM

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Originally posted by eyeonu
according to C5 news they will have to apologise 3 times for the race row in January!!

They will have to apologise on....

1.launch night
2.Highlights of launch
3.First eviction

Do you think they should still have to?
I suppose if you see it as being BB's fault. But yes i think they should just to shut up all those people who are going to be moaning

Jake! 24-05-2007 04:47 PM

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Lil-Lindz 24-05-2007 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by sunshine30
and why do they have to apologise about the launch night ? and the first eviction ? :conf2:
Not about the lauch night or eviction, on the launch night and eviction. They must apologise about the whole racism row thing

eyeonu 24-05-2007 04:48 PM

apparently there's been protests in India about the show returning!

Stu 24-05-2007 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by sunshine30
and why do they have to apologise about the launch night ? and the first eviction ? :conf2:
No thats when they will HAVE to apologise.


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TheY ShoulD ApologieS FoR ThE WaY It wAs HandleD
Isint that what their doing?

Mrluvaluva 24-05-2007 04:49 PM

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru....php?tid=59490

Stu 24-05-2007 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by eyeonu
apparently there's been protests in India about the show returning!
Oh bugger off. Their not gonna be getting it over their anyway.

Revol 24-05-2007 04:50 PM

Are people still upset over CBB5? Pretty ridiculous if you ask me. CBB5 is finished, Shilpa has forgiven Jade, Danielle and Jo, just let sleeping dogs lie!

GiRTh 24-05-2007 05:03 PM

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Originally posted by ~~
They didn't release the tapes because BB is now headline news again less than 1 week before BB8 launch. How convenient. More free press. Coincidence?
This is a very good point that seems to have been overlooked.

It is very strange that they have decided to release the tapes at this moment in the year. There's no way it's a coincidence. This is yet another example of the £ndemol cash machine rolling onl.

Stu 24-05-2007 05:16 PM

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Originally posted by GiRTh
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Originally posted by ~~
They didn't release the tapes because BB is now headline news again less than 1 week before BB8 launch. How convenient. More free press. Coincidence?
This is a very good point that seems to have been overlooked.

It is very strange that they have decided to release the tapes at this moment in the year. There's no way it's a coincidence. This is yet another example of the £ndemol cash machine rolling onl.
They were ordered to release the tapes by Ofcom. It was in Ofcoms ruling. Endemol are trying to remove the stigma of CBB5 from BB8 anyway. And this is done delibaretely on OFCOMS part if you ask me to thwart their least favourite show.

Scarlett. 24-05-2007 05:40 PM

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Originally posted by eyeonu
apparently there's been protests in India about the show returning!
Why dont they just piss off, they think burning things which represents people solves things

Lil-Lindz 24-05-2007 05:43 PM

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Originally posted by eyeonu
apparently there's been protests in India about the show returning!
Well what are they going to do, its and ENGLISH show not some indian show! They cant stop us from watching what we want! If they had a show which was racist towards us we wouldnt walk around the streets protesting and burning things
they cant do anything so why even bother?

Stu 24-05-2007 07:33 PM

Admin deleted: A big generalisation. Could be offensive. James

Red Moon 24-05-2007 07:34 PM

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Big Brother bullying: the words you never heard


Here is a transcript of the unaired footage from Celebrity Big Brother which Ofcom said today was part of the 'racist bullying' of the Indian actress, Shilpa Shetty, by her housemates

Tuesday, January 16, 23:18:

Danielle Lloyd has emerged from the Diary Room a few hours after an argument with Shilpa Shetty. She is talking to Jade Goody, Jo O’Meara, Jack Tweed and Cleo Rocos. Jade Goody asks her why she was called in.

Jade: Did you use the ‘P’ word?

Danielle: What’s the ‘P’ word?

Jack: It rhymes with ‘tacky’.

Jo: Keep it nice and discreet there, Jack.

Danielle: I don’t know.

Jade: When the argument was going on, did you use the ‘P’ word that rhymes with ‘tacky’?

Danielle: No.

Jade: That’s what I thought. I thought, I can imagine her saying that under her breath or something.

Danielle: I don’t use them words.

Tuesday, January 16, 23:40:

Half an hour later, the housemates return to the subject.

Jo: There once was a house that was happy, and then there entered...

Cleo: You’re all going to go to Big Brother prison.

Danielle: How do you know what?

Cleo: And you’re going to need me.

Jo: But it ends with a nappy. What’s wrong with you people?

Jack: But if you say, ’Along came some people who were tacky...’

Jade: There once was a house that was happy, until...

Jack: They made it really tacky.

Jade: Until there entered a... until there entered a ...

Jo: Strappy ... Strap-on.

Jack: Strap-on.

Jade: No, no, no, there once was a house that was happy...

Jo: Until someone got yappy...

Jade: Yes. There once was a house that was happy, until someone got yappy.

Jack: She nearly killed everyone with a chicken.

Cleo: But everything ended up finger-lickin’.

Jo: Now you’ve got to do something that rhymes with a nappy.

Cleo: Oh, God, don’t give that to Danielle, for God’s sake.

Danielle: And it all ended up - being crappy.

Cleo: Oh, dear me.

Jo: Right.

Danielle: That could have been rather disturbing, that.

Jo: That was a good one.

Wednesday, January 17, 00:13:

Goody is still fuming about her argument with Shilpa Shetty.

Jo: She said, ‘You know what Jade, this is going to be your claim to fame’.

Jade: Because she’s a god.

Danielle: Is that what she said?

Jo: Yeah, she did.

Jade: ‘This is going to be your claim to fame.’

Jo: ‘This is going to be your claim to fame.’

Jade: (inaudible) I don’t know her surname. Shilpa Pashwa ********** whoever you are, Shilpa Poppadom, I ********** ... ooh.

Jack: Stop it.

Jo: Calm down. It’s finished.

Jade: I am fuming and I know that it’s not going to lie, because I know, when I look at her tomorrow, I’m going to be feeling sick. I cannot stay... I cannot stay in this house and I will never walk...

Jo: There was a young girl from Bombay...

Jade: No, let’s not do that. I will not walk, because I’ve never let it get to me, but I tell you what, if I go, that will probably be the best thing for me - a bloody godsend - because I’ll end up smashing her head against... No, I won’t, because I’m not violent.
Source:The Times

Lil-Lindz 24-05-2007 07:40 PM

well it does show some more racism, i dont understand why they held that back though

Stu 24-05-2007 08:30 PM

Thats not racism , its just stupidity and a bunch of people who are not smart enough to form a complexity of racism , or indeed anything above the likes of 'Does my butt look big in this'???

Red Moon 24-05-2007 08:35 PM

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Channel Four Television Corporation in respect of its service Channel 4.

For

Breaches of the Ofcom Broadcasting Code:

Rule 2.3 – Broadcasters must when applying generally accepted standards ensure that material which may cause offence is justified by the context; and

Rule 1.3 – Children must also be protected by appropriate scheduling from unsuitable material.

On

15, 17, 18, 19 January 2007


Decision

To direct Channel Four (and S4C) to broadcast a statement of Ofcom’s findings in a form determined by Ofcom immediately before the start of the broadcast of the first programme of the eighth series of Big Brother on Channel 4; immediately before the start of the broadcast of the first re-versioned programme of the eighth series of Big Brother on Channel 4; and immediately before the start of the broadcast of the programme in which the first eviction from the eighth series of Big Brother occurs on Channel 4
.
Summary

1.1 On the basis detailed in the Decision, under powers delegated from the Ofcom Board to Ofcom’s Content Sanctions Committee (“the Committee”), the Committee has decided to impose a statutory sanction on Channel Four (and S4C) in light of the serious nature of the failure by Channel Four to ensure compliance with Ofcom’s Broadcasting Code.

1.2 This adjudication under the Broadcasting Code relates to the fifth series of Celebrity Big Brother. (Celebrity) Big Brother is produced by Brighter Pictures, part of Endemol UK plc (“Brighter Pictures”), and is broadcast by the Channel Four Television Corporation (“Channel Four” or “the broadcaster”) on its Channel 4 service. The Channel Four Big Brother series are also broadcast by S4C on its service. It started on 3 January 2007 and ran 26 days until 28 January 2007.

1.3 Big Brother is a reality based television show where celebrity contestants are confined together in a controlled environment (“the House”), for a set amount of time. Every room (with the exception of the toilets and shower rooms) and every contestant is recorded by cameras and microphones. Recording of all actions and conversations occurs 24 hours a day. Each week, contestants are nominated for eviction from the House. The ultimate decision as to who is to be evicted is then left to the public by means of voting via telephone or text. The last housemate left at the end of the series is the winner of the show.

1.4 As the fifth series progressed, disagreements began to develop between some of the housemates, in particular, between Shilpa Shetty on the one hand and Jade Goody, Jo O’Meara and Danielle Lloyd on the other. Viewers, and others who were aware of the events in the House, became increasingly concerned that Shilpa Shetty was being subjected to bullying, some alleging that the bullying was racist. Ofcom received just over 44,500 complaints about Celebrity Big Brother 2007.

1.5 Under the Communications Act 2003, Ofcom has a statutory duty to set standards for the content of broadcast television programmes in a Code with which broadcasters must comply. Ofcom must ensure broadcasters comply with the Code and perform its duties in light of the European Convention of Human Rights which provides for the right to freedom of expression. Ofcom must exercise its duties in light of these rights and not interfere with the exercise of these rights in broadcast services unless it is satisfied that the restrictions it seeks to apply are required by law and necessary to achieve a legitimate aim.

1.6 In setting standards for the content of broadcast television programmes, Ofcom requires broadcasters to ensure that “generally accepted standards” are applied to the content of television programmes so as to provide adequate protection from the inclusion of offensive or harmful material. Under Ofcom’s Broadcasting Code (“the Code”), broadcasters are required in applying these generally accepted standards to ensure that material which may cause offence is justified by the context. Context includes such matters as the editorial content of the programme, the service on which it is broadcast and the likely expectations of the audience.

1.7 In making its adjudication, Ofcom has taken account of representations made by Channel Four.

1.8 Channel Four is a public service broadcaster with a unique statutory remit to provide a broad range of high quality and diverse programming which, in particular: demonstrates innovation, experiment and creativity in the form and content of programmes; appeals to the tastes and interests of a culturally diverse society; makes significant contribution to meeting the need for the licensed public service channels to include programmes of an educational nature and other programmes of educative value; and exhibits a distinctive character.

1.9 Channel Four’s representations are fully considered and addressed in this adjudication below. In summary, Channel Four submitted that: the incidents broadcast were responsibly handled; appropriately scheduled and edited and justified by the context being within the expectations of the Big Brother audience. It maintained that the series had been in keeping with its statutory remit. It accepted and regretted that many viewers had been offended but submitted that important freedom of expression issues were at stake. Channel Four considered the debate stimulated by what occurred had been of “undeniable public value” regardless of the fact that it had not set out to create a national debate about racism. It believed that the broadcasts had been fully in compliance with the Code.

1.10 In considering whether there had been breaches of the Code, Ofcom recognises that material that is potentially offensive or harmful may be properly broadcast in compliance with the Code so long as its inclusion is justified by the context so as to provide adequate protection to members of the public. The Code does not prohibit the broadcast of potentially offensive or harmful material in any circumstances. What is essential for compliance with the Code is the way in which such material is transmitted by the broadcaster. Accordingly, in considering whether Channel Four has breached the Code in this instance, Ofcom’s starting point is not that material which is potentially offensive or harmful has been transmitted, but whether such material has been appropriately handled by Channel Four.

1.11 Ofcom has considered whether a number of events in the House were in compliance with the Broadcasting Code. It has found that there were three events which were broadcast during the series which were in breach of the Code (see paragraphs 8.1 – 8.38 below for a full explanation of the breach findings). Ofcom has found that in relation to the following three incidents, Channel Four failed to appropriately handle the material so as to adequately protect members of the public from offensive material:
Remarks about Cooking in India (transmitted 15 January 2007)
“**** off home” comment (transmitted 17 January 2007)
“Shilpa Poppadom” comment (transmitted 18 and 19 January 2007)

1.12 Ofcom has also found that in relation to a number of other incidents, Channel Four was either not in breach of the Code and on one occasion, Ofcom has found that the issue was resolved. See paragraphs 6.1 to 7.12 for Ofcom’s reasoning on these incidents.

1.13 Big Brother is an entertainment programme and viewers therefore perceive what happens in the House as “entertainment”, they also view it as “reality” i.e. they view the events as real events happening to real people. This means that the audience can genuinely become concerned for the welfare of housemates, but in the knowledge and expectation that any serious problematic or anti-social behaviour will be appropriately dealt with. This has become one of the generally accepted standards of Big Brother.

1.14 Channel Four in the Big Brother programme format has established various editorial mechanisms through which inappropriate behaviour in the House can be challenged. For instance, through discussion in the Diary Room, Big Brother can confront and reprimand housemates about their behaviour thereby acting as an important arbiter to what the public may perceive to be offensive language or behaviour. Reactions by housemates, Big Brother interventions and the Diary Room are all part of the well understood architecture of the programme and the context within which Channel Four is able to appropriately broadcast potentially offensive material.

1.15 However, in relation to the incidents outlined in 1.11 above Channel Four failed adequately to apply generally accepted standards by justifying the inclusion of the offensive material by its context. It is Ofcom’s view that when these three incidents were broadcast, Channel Four failed sufficiently to address the potential for offence or left this behaviour unchallenged. This resulted in offence being caused to a very large number of viewers.

1.16 Exceptionally, in the circumstances of this case, Ofcom judged that the relationship between the broadcast incidents and Channel Four’s overall awareness of the events within the House was relevant in terms of compliance. We therefore asked Channel Four to submit any relevant untransmitted material. In deciding whether to impose a sanction, Ofcom has taken into account, in addition to the incidents broadcast, this footage from the House which was not transmitted.

1.17 The events from this untransmitted footage occurred before the broadcast of two of the incidents (one of which was broadcast twice) which Ofcom has found to be in breach of the Code. This material included conversations between housemates which were instructive of the relationships, tensions and attitudes in the House at this particular time and were logged as “racist” at the time by Brighter Pictures, the producer.

1.18 Channel Four was not aware of this material at the relevant time and therefore was not able to take account of it when making its editorial decisions as to how to handle the broadcast of these two incidents. Channel Four has submitted that this was due to a breakdown in communications between itself and Brighter Pictures, which the broadcaster considers resulted from a failure by the producer to follow established procedures and therefore draw the material to Channel Four’s immediate attention. Whether this was the case or not, this does not excuse Channel Four from its obligations under its licence to comply with the Code. Ofcom considers that Channel Four’s compliance processes were clearly not adequate in light of this failure and that Channel Four should have been more proactive at this time in ensuring that it was aware of all relevant material.

1.19 Ofcom has found that there was a serious failure within Channel 4’s compliance procedures for the series which meant that it was not fully aware of the events in the House so that it could handle potentially offensive material through its editorial mechanisms. In our view, if Channel 4 had seen this material, at the time it was recorded, it would have handled the unfolding situation in the House very differently in order to ensure compliance with the Code.

1.20 Ofcom also considers that Channel Four failed in its handling of the incidents broadcast to take account of the cumulative effect of the events in the House. The audience’s understanding of the events in the House and, in particular, the alleged racist bullying, was changing as the series developed and therefore comments which may in other circumstances have been interpreted as “borderline” in terms of offence became much more offensive given what was happening in the House, as well as beyond the House, in the outside world.

1.21 Ofcom considers that the breaches by Channel Four of the Broadcasting Code when taken together show a serious failure to apply generally accepted standards.

1.22 In light of Ofcom’s findings and having taken into account the representations made by Channel Four, and all the evidence before it, the Committee has concluded that it should impose a statutory sanction on Channel Four (and S4C).

1.23 The Committee has taken into account in its decision as to the appropriate sanction to be applied both the fact that Channel Four acted promptly as soon as it became aware of the untransmitted material in exercising control over subsequent events in the House; and has carried out a full review of its compliance programme and put in place more comprehensive compliance procedures and guidelines.

1.24 The Committee has also taken into account the fact that the breaches did not result from deliberate, reckless or grossly negligent actions by Channel Four but rather represents a serious error of judgment in relation to material that requires the most careful handling.

1.25 The Committee has a range of statutory sanctions available to it. In this case the Committee considers that the most appropriate sanction is to require Channel Four (and S4C) to broadcast a statement of Ofcom’s findings in a form determined by Ofcom. Furthermore, the Committee decided that this should be broadcast on three separate occasions when it would reach the highest number of viewers. That is, at the start of the first programme of the new series of Big Brother and at the start of its re-versioned programme the following morning and also at the start of the first eviction show.

1.26 The Committee would take very seriously any future failure of compliance leading to a similar situation as that which the Committee has dealt with in this case.
Source:OFCOM

Red Moon 24-05-2007 09:27 PM

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Big Brother in racism ‘cover-up’

The future of Big Brother was hanging in the balance last night as Channel 4 faced accusations of a cover-up over racist bullying.

The channel’s head was defying calls to resign despite being ordered to screen an unprecedented three apologies after a damning report on the broadcaster’s failure to respond to the incidents.

New transcripts reveal that some of the contestants made up a racist limerick about the Bollywood star Shilpa Shetty that referred to the word “****”.

The scenes were never shown and Ofcom, the media watchdog, concluded that channel executives were unaware that the footage existed until three days later. Hertfordshire Police ended their investigation into alleged racist behaviour in March, saying that no further action would be taken. But officers were unaware that the footage existed because Channel 4 refused to hand over tapes of unbroadcast material. The police will now examine the transcripts.

Channel 4 could now face accusations of misleading the public over the existence of the secret footage.

Andy Duncan, the head of Channel 4, was ordered yesterday to screen the apologies for “serious editorial misjudgments” exposed during this year’s celebrity series of what is the channel’s most important show, which usually thrives on controversy.

He told The Times: “We accept that what occurred was racially offensive and we should have done more to challenge and reprimand the housemates. But the Channel 4 board is unanimous that this is not a resignation issue. It was a case of human error.” He added: “Ofcom recognised the power of Big Brother to raise social issues. We don’t want people to be afraid to express their opinions.”

On Wednesday 12 new contestants will start the latest series of the show, which attracts up to 8 million viewers and contributes 10 per cent of Channel 4’s annual revenues. But, with Gordon Brown sizing up the channel for a £1 billion privatisation, its credentials as a public-service broadcaster will come under scrutiny.

The row centred on the alleged bullying of Shetty by her fellow contestants Jade Goody, the model Danielle Lloyd and the singer Jo O’Meara. The furore prompted 46,000 complaints and became an international incident, drawing a reaction from Mr Brown.

Ofcom discovered that Channel 4’s grip on events was so lax that it often did not even know what was being said by contestants during the programme.

The watchdog has imposed an unprecedented “statutory sanction”. Channel 4 must broadcast an Ofcom-approved apology before three big programmes – the first show of the new series on Wednesday, the first show the next morning and the first eviction show. Channel 4 avoided a fine by accepting Ofcom’s verdict and an agreement to introduce a strict new compliance system for Big Brother, including a welfare producer to monitor housemates and “diversity” training for staff.

Ofcom cited three occasions on which Channel 4 failed to handle the events appropriately: Goody referring to Shetty as “Shilpa Poppadom”; Lloyd saying that Shetty should “******* off home”; and the argument over Shetty’s cooking that ended with Lloyd and O’Meara making derogatory comments about Indian eating habits.

Channel 4 breached the Broadcasting Code by failing to challenge racist behaviour that offended thousands of viewers and by offering no context or justification for its broadcast. Ofcom also made public the unseen footage which showed that housemates had joked about calling the actress a “****” in a limerick, before the row exploded on screen.

The incident was logged as “racist” by Brighter Pictures, the independent production company that makes Big Brother. But Channel 4 bosses said they were not told by producers about the atmosphere of increasing hostility for days.

‘Joke’ C4 tried not to tell

Transcript of unbroadcast Celebrity Big Brother footage from January 16 logged as racist:

O’Meara begins a limerick: “There once was a house that was happy, and then there entered . . .”

Goody “I’ve got a great one, but I’m not allowed to say it.”

Cleo Rocos “You’re all going to Big Brother prison.”

O’Meara “But it ends with ‘a nappy’. What’s wrong with you people?”

Jack Tweedy “But if you say ‘Along came some people who were tacky . . .’”

The “joke” carries on, with the housemates inviting each other to finish the limerick.

Rocos “Oh God, don’t give that to Danielle, for God’s sake.” Lloyd is called in to the Diary Room. The housemates debate why.

Goody “I think I know. I think maybe Danielle used the ‘P’ word . . . I can imagine her saying that under her breath.”

Lloyd emerges from the Diary Room and denies using the word.

On Jan 20 Big Brother calls Jo O’Meara into the Diary Room.

BB “Do you understand how it might have been considered racist to be using a rhyming slang that rhymed with ‘****’?”

Jo “Yeah, I can now, but do you know what, I didn’t really take much notice of it at the time.”

BB “Jo, as a result of this incident, Big Brother has no option but to issue you with your first and only formal warning. Big Brother has arranged for you to have a short conversation, off camera, with Steven, the psychologist.”
Source:The Times


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