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Problem is, some of the public are so stupid and say that 'bitching' is 'bullying' which therefore means theyll be no bitching this year.
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Yeah there needs to be a little bit of tension ir BB would be pretty dull, not everyone gets on thats life
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It was implied in this thread that Endemol created a racist-divide by making a making adjustments, which lead towards the race-furore. It was also implied that this was done to increase viewing ratings for the show and so increase profits.
Let me point out Emdemol where not responsible for the formation of groups in the the house or for Jade Gobby and her little dog bitches patronising bulling. If Jade Gobby and her little dog bitches had kept there dirty big mouths shut then none of the new rules would have been needed. Hence my claim they are to blame ultimately for the new rules being put in place. Endemol and Channel 4 are just responding to the fall out from the incident that they created. Jade Gobby and her little dog bitches should consider themselves lucky that Endemol and Channel 4 defend them so well while the show was on and during OFCOM's investigation. As for your little personal digs at me I rise above them and won't give the them a moment of thought but in passing. |
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Im so glad there are rules being made to stop people ganging up. I switched off from celeb bb as soon as they started that horrible gang thing and its the thing that always ruins bb. My favourite was bb7, which nearly got ruined because of the gangs but as soon as the gang leaders were thrown out it became brilliant!!
This will be the best ever bb!:dance2::dance2: |
May be the Endemol decided to keep the footage in the highlights program because it felt that the truth about Jade Gobby and her little lap dog bitches should be seen by the public so they could decide their fate. Some people might think it was in the best interests of the public that this little group of worthless people were shown in their true light and not edited to look good. These same people would say that Endemol has done us a big favor in helping destroy their careers and knock them off the pedestals some people put people like this on. Of course some people will think they are whiter than white and their views will unfortunately never be changed and they will always defend them over and over again and view them as Goddesses not to be touched.
I would imagine the extra income from larger audience figures was balanced out in the end by the loss to the the show of the income from the phone voting. Further to this given all the employee time spent after the show on the OFCOM compliant I would expect the show in real terms made less of a profit than was expected. This would seem the case looking at the profit figures of Channel 4. I fear the Jade Gobby always speaks before putting her limited brain power into gear and she has always been a mindless patronising bully with a limited view on the world. I guess it was inevitable she would form surround herself with a group of like minded people to praise her from on high. There was no excuse for what she did in the house or her little dog bitches. People should respect other people especially when they have to live under the same roof. Yes Shilpa was different from her and her little gang but that was no reason to do what they did. Jade Gobby and little lap dog bitches should take responsibility for what they have done and not continue to blame it on Endemol and then her fans might be able to do the same and move on. One must remember that they said what they said and Endemols mistake was to show it on national television in the way they did. At the end of the day if they hadn't said and did what they did then there wouldn't have been a problem. So I'm afraid that the blame can not be easily diverted from them. If that means the new Big Brother show is heavily regulated until the point of boredom then they will be ultimately to blame. I feel trying blame someone else for Jade Gobby and the her little dog bitches is a pointless task and thank less task given the evidence against them. |
It really isnt looking good, the way this is going there is going to be no arguements what so ever :bawling:
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Right, here goes:wink:
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I might be speaking out of turn here - seeing as it's only my second post - but as far as I'm concerned Jade Goody is a bully. I believe Jo and Danielle were afraid of her; it was obvious by their fake laughs and silly suck-up comments. And yes, they were jealous of Shilpa but the way they sided with Jade was deplorable.
Big Bro should have stepped in much sooner to confront Jade (who nearly died when she realised she could go bankrupt) about her comments and bully tactics but that would have made it even more obvious [to the public] that there really was a problem and that they (BB) didn't know what to do about it. As far as I'm concerned, it's wrong for someone to watch a programme and believe it's okay to observe another person being humiliated, slandered and bullied ~ it's just not normal, well, not the way I was raised! I used to think Jade was alright - a self-made millionaire - but now I think she's a loud-mouthed ignoramus! |
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They have come up with some real rubbish and plenty of that is to do with Big Brother and it's housemates, etc.. There has always been a rule concerning racism and that is one of the reasons why, they edited out the "limerick" that Jo & Jack were mainly involved with. Plus, they were issued with formal warnings, apparently:rolleyes: These new rules are going way over-the-top and this will mean that the new housemates will have to be on their best behavior and if any start to argue, they will probably be asked to go to the Diary Room and once in there, they shall be chucked out by a side-door or something. This is a very unfair rule-book. Remember, the new show has a 10pm slot and that is well after the watershed. The book also goes on about "language" too, so what about "swearing?" nodisharmony :angel: |
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Nobody is going to agree on everything. Especially where Jade Goody is concerned. She is hated by many right now. I don't think that Jo & Danielle were afraid of her. It was just that they liked the way Jade Goody came across. Remember moonwolf, she wasn't arguing all of the time. Even the footage that was shown, wasn't too bad really, except for the bad bits, which BB loves to show and focus in on. There are 24 hours in a day. So Jade may sleep for 8 hours and that leaves 15 hours of unshown footage, agreed:thumbs: Then, the last 1 hour, won't be footage of just Jade Goody either. probably 15 minutes only, perhaps? So the massive section of unshown footage could show so much more of the lighter and funnier and nicer side of Jade, which BB chooses NOT to show us. This will paint a much less prettier picture of Jade Goody and indeed, Jo & Danielle too. __________________________________________ I don't think they were jealous of Shilpa Shetty. There is very little to be jealous about, actually:yuk: Shilpa has money and she is attractive to some, but that's it really. Maybe she had a superiority complex and looked down at the housemates as pretty lower class or something, who knows?? __________________________________________ Jade Goody was obviously upset, when she had realised what had occured and I doubt that money was on her mind at that point. Jade has spent a lot of money recently and over-spending is what many celebrities do and this was the wrong time for Jade to spend, spend, spend, just after this. But that is her choice. She is NOT bankcrupt either. Well, not yet:sad: __________________________________________ Sadly, reality shows like this BB show, are always like this. I remember watching Celebrity Love Island and there was some real bust up's between them and plenty of swearing to. But there is a buttons on every TV remote control, whereby someone can easily turn the channel over. It is a matter of choice __________________________________________ Jade Goody came over badly and I can understand anybody thinking that she is very loudmouthed, etc... But as the footage shown, is microscopic in comparison to actually, what is filmed, also, as Jade Goody has only done three shows like this and all the other appearances on TV shows, interviews and other stuff, certainly paint a much better picture of Jade Goody, than we see in these massively edited down footage. But naturally, some think otherwise. nodisharmony :angel: |
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They would have picked on someone else, it just might not have had racist overtones.
So now we are saying the new rules are Shilpa Shetty fault because she was bullied in the house by Gobby and her little dog bitches! |
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Take the "Race" word out of the equasion Ofcom would not have had to bring this present investigation up right now, at the worst possible time too. Jade Goody was accused of bullying on the original BB show, but then after, she went from strength to strength. Like I say, take Shilpa Shetty out of the equasion and replace the problem, then arrive at the present day, it would have been different. nodisharmony :angel: |
So the whole affair had nothing to do with Goddy and her little dog bitches, they were just innocent victims?
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There is NO denying that part. But, as there are camera's and microphones all over the BB house, then BB will be aware of everything that get said, agreed:thumbs: If Endemol allow these words and comments to stay in, then it is natural that it is going to offend many people. We all saw that, didn't we? agreed:thumbs: If Endemol had decided to "edit out" every word & comment which may had been construed as racist, then, nobody would have complained and there would have been no investigation today. Jade Goody's part in this, was obvious to see, agreed:thumbs: But, as the person in question, "Shilpa Shetty" was an Indian woman, this made all the difference, as the "Race" card was played and once that happens, there will naturally be a problem. All three of these girls have been accused of being racist people and that is incorrect. Everything which was said in the BB house at that time, was just words and comments which have been construed as having possible racial overtones and that is it. Just because of that, they are hated like mad and labelled as full-time racist people. That is untrue and infact quite bad! nodisharmony :angel: |
So we agreed that;
1. Goddy and her little dog bitches insulted Shilpa Shetty 2. Endemol has camera's and microphones all over the house and heard every thing that Goddy and her little dog bitches said and did. 3. That Goddy and her little dog bitches said things that were going to offend people including who they were aimed at. 4. Endemol decided not to edit out what said and complaints followed. 5. Goddy and her little dog bitches are responsible for what they did and said. 6. If Shilpa Shetty hadn't been in the house then the comments made by Goddy and her little dog bitches might not have had racist overtones. So this leaves us with the fact if they hadn't have said what they did we wouldn't need rules in the house to stop bullying and racist remarks being made. |
Almost getting there:rolleyes:
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But, with everything which I have taken into account, "Facts", (that is)...It is not such a clear-cut situation, but if you choose not to see that, then I guess we shall just have to agree to differ on this situation, Agreed:thumbs: nodisharmony :angel: |
So we can also agree that Gobby and her little dog bitches comments bulling Shilpa Shetty was racially motivated as well.
The thing we are stuck on is that the Gobby and her little dog bitches, are as you say, not responsible fro what they said and did and in fact Endemol are the ones to blame allowing Gobby and her little dog bitches to be in the house together with Shilpa Shetty. |
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I think that second paragraph of yours is a fair assumption. nodisharmony :angel: |
So why should Gobby and her little dog bitches get away with what they said and how it might affect Big Brother 8?
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I think that second paragraph of yours is a fair assumption. What that means, is, that "fair assumption" which is another way of saying, "Someones opinion", ie "your's" I said that, as it is obvious to anyone in the world, looking at your posts within this thread, that you personally don't like all three of them one bit. So it is natural that we shall have to find a point where we cannot agree much further, right:thumbs: That is why I made that comment:- "fair assumption", I think that is as close as we can get to agreeing on this, "full stop." _____________________________________________ Regarding your new points:- Why should Jade Goody, Jo O'Meara & Danielle Lloyd get away with this? Well, the simple answer is:- (They haven't) None of them have got away with this. Throughout there lives, this will always haunt them in "one way shape or form", everywhere they go, everytime Jade, Jo or even Danielle Lloyd, people will remember and it shall be fearful for all of them and for a very long time. That is as far as it will go, regarding "punishments", that is! I certainly wouldn't like to be either of them right now. It is a difficult life to lead. But they just have to get on with it and the many haters who want them to go through more problems, well, there is a few people:angel: who are trying very hard to hault this:wink: ____________________________________________ Your other point regarding Big Brother 8 and how it has affected the upcoming show, because of apologies to Ofcom & the New rule-book, well, that's a decision which had to be made in light of Ofcom's further findings and Channel 4 & Endemol who didn't do the correct thing at the right time. We've been down that road already within this thread. Accountability at the highest level, once again... nodisharmony :angel: |
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