Thing is Amy many do find it harassing. If, for example, and this has happed to me and others I know, you end up walking the long way past a building site every day because taking the normal route exposes you to the remarks and makes you feel uncomfortable whilst on other occasions you have to grin and bear it although you hate it - you know it is unacceptable behaviour.

I think we all note that men usually only do it when they are in groups because that know it’s wrong but don’t care and because they are gutless. Men have no right to make women feel that way. I don’t think we should ever condone it.

I find the ladies are usually the ones doing it to me. I take it as a compliment.

Men get a bit cocky when they are with their mates , they may think it's harmless banter but not every woman likes that sort of attention , sometimes it can be flattering but a lot of them go too far, and can make you feel very uneasy.

That'a how i see it , it's obvious they're acting silly with their mates as a laugh. And it's easily ignored .

If it ever goes beyond that with more vulgar comments and remarks then it's obviously harassment.

Exactly :wavey:

Which is what the article is touching on and what we are discussing.

What do those guys even think will happen? Do they think women going from Points A to B are just waiting for the right words to be yelled in their direction? They're walking down the street, not sitting on the pinball machine.

"Cracking arse luv"

"Thanks Dave, let me suck you off behind the cement mixer"

Well, exactly.
"Hi, can I buy you a drink?" whilst in the pub is pretty different to "get 'em out, luv!" yelled from a Fiat.

I'm not necessarily sure if this is an issue but it's not something that only happens to girls btw. Believe it or not it's happened to me a couple times. Because it's something that's rare though it catches me by surprise and to me personally it's more of a strange feeling, or at least kinda flattering, but not so much uncomfortable or offensive. Although I've not had anything weird or disgusting said to me.

Once it was with two of my friends basically "cat calling" all of us - so I'd say it's not always a person alone that it happens to. But for me every time it's been multiple girls and always while they were inside a car though (or a minivan one time lmao). :joker:

I think people mostly just do it for the thrill or if they're really drunk or really bored. Which I'm not saying is an excuse but people will view this differently... some might like it, some might hate it, some might not care either way. It depends on the context and what's said though of course because there's a lot of situations where it could be uncomfortable for sure. :shrug:

Indeed. I mean, I still get catcalled despite being 31 and fairly overweight, I guess its the tits that attract the dickheads. I started getting catcalled at age 12..when I started to develop, in my school uniform...and it was near constant. It was disgusting and actually made me so depressed and quite scared tbh. Infact, I actually..being a child...tried to cut my tits off with a pencil sharpener blade. Obviously I know as an adult that it would never work that way and I would need a proper knife..but yeah..I still have the scars from that.

Like on the other thread, how it was suggested that it was womens fault that men upskirt and we should all just wear trousers to prevent it? Its always womens fault for mens behaviour...its fairly depressing. Even when a woman gets raped..its always 'oh she had a lot to drink' and such.

Under his eye. Blessed be the fruit. Tbh.

LOL, as if that would ever happen. Its behaviour thats apparently absolutely fine, as its women on the receiving end...and it will be rationalized away as utterly normal and harmless. Building sites were not actually that bad for me, it was mainly random blokes on the street! A few of them actually grabbed me too, or brushed up against me deliberately in queues in shops. From ****ing 12 onwards ffs.

Those saying you are surprised its still a thing...or saying its not a thing now..it definitely is. As I say, even at my age and overweight, I still get dickheads brushing their hardons up against me on crowded trains (on purpose, not accidentally, you can tell the difference) and such, along with random disgusting comments on the street or when walking past pubs. Except now, I have the balls to just hit them in the balls when they do it. That sharps stops them.

Some women find it flattering, thats up to them, but I don't, at all. I think its vile tbh, and its pointless, all you suceed in doing most of the time is making the woman think you are a bit of a dickhead, or depending on the woman, actually scaring her.

mmhhmm, that show is extra creepy because like I said in reply to Ashleys comments......it's not even an out there idea, depressing

Well, Margaret Atwood actually said, nothing in her book had not actually happened at some point in history, so she just basically pulled it all together. Which does make it seriously scary as, if its happened before..or is happening now in some places (like the making women wear certain clothing..which obviously happens now) ..well..

Yeah exactly, scary

One of my rules was that I would not put any events in my book that had not already happened in what James Joyce called the 'nightmare' of history, nor any technology not already available. No imaginary gizmos, no imaginary laws, no imaginary atrocities. God is in the details, they say. So is the devil.

Not typing out the whole introduction...but that part is the most relevant. Have the book infront of me :laugh:

Are you watching the show or just reading the book? I've not read the book but I've heard people say that Season 2 has broken away from the book

Season 2 had to break away from the book, as the ending of S1 was the ending of the book...so they had to just go their own way after that, apparently Atwood is helping with the storyline though, as she imagined happened next but didn't write.

I watch the series and also read the book. Got the book about halfway through the series.

Oh I'm glad she's got some input into it, it's a brilliant series, the characters are so creepy and the actors play them all so well I think

The one positive side of cat calling is that you can identify an individual or group that are harassing. If they are silent, it doesn't change their thoughts.