As a long term fan of over ten years, I'm more than entitled to express my dismay at how my favourite show has been ruined. A forum is a place for discussion of all opinions, not just praise. Please quote me next time you want to talk about me. :)

I don't believe I did, no

no, BB is good for Channel 5 :love:

This hasn't been a BB forum fir a very long time and I think any regulars know that it's a tv based forum that still has BB in the title.

More like getting worse

Maybe focus on discussing the tv show you proclaim to love and not other forum members who simply don't share your opinions.
There's an idea.

This forum hasn't been solely BB related chat for a very long time and for long standing members who used to enjoy the show they've got to know other forum members they get along with.

As it is, you believe in all the "promising news" you want. Me? I've heard the same stuff for roughly the last 8 years and nothing changes so I'm well within my right to call a spade a spade and a turd... well... a turd.

yeah i think BB just became boring for you now, and tbh you're right about this forum having more than just BB related things on here now


about the promising news, well i can agree with you Marsh, we in holland also have these producers who promise us everything about the shows they make and 90% of them are very boring and dull

If love island peaks, that gives BB (a very unlikely) another shot, that’s what I was getting at lmao

I honestly just want to see a series like BB7 again, regular people mixed with fame-hungry wannabe's. Regular nominations and tasks that last more than 3 hours, something like the Ice Cream task from BB10 would be good. Channel 5 may have one final chance at turning BB around I just hope they get it right finally!

North East London It Girl vs South West London It Girl on Night 1?

Yeah but LI will only start coming down in a few years' time I think

You and your negativity can go away

You do know things can change?
Don’t always expect it is untrue.
This is the negativity that brings the forum down

This.

Marsh has a very valid point. For literally years now, we’ve had the same fluff about it being new, the game is changing etc and EVERY single time we’ve been let down. People are tired of just accepting the bull**** that gets thrown out every year.

Yes things can change.

But putting up with almost ten years of sh*t most people are bored of waiting and passed caring whatever "positive" they might offer.

If it's taken this long for baby steps I'm not expecting any changes at all. Same production team, same channel, same crap.

The only negativity bringing the forum down is people's insistence on diverting the conversation to be about forum members and not the show.

I completely understand and respect peoples skepticism and feeling that they have been disappointed and "burned" in the past, and also their urge to express it. What I dont understand is someone who definitively states that (A) They will not watch BB on channel 5 and (B) The brand is dead and no other channel will ever pick it up, continuing to devote their time and energy to a subject that by their own statements they have definitively concluded there is absolutely no hope for, and then consistently spreading that nihilistic negativity on a forum devoted to lovers of the subject (including critical, skeptical or disappointed ones). Its like going to a concert of an artist who you once loved and now for whatever reason hate and then booing and complaining all the way through it. Why even bother being there, for both your own sake and that of the people around you. If youre that over it with no hope, just move on.

There’s new people that have joined the production team.
The fact you call B.B. “crap” even though you are on a TiBB forum and are supposedly a fan. You really are one of many on here that cause negativity.

True

If only we were allowed to say what the hell we liked

Omg I know right. It's not like I watched it for 16 years or anything. :fan:

No. The negativity is coming from your insistence on discussing me as "One of many" rather than the show.

The show promises change every year and change never happens so pardon me if "things might change" doesn't have me sitting on the edge of my seat.

IMO there isn't much hope for the format as it's had its day and is pretty much dead. Same as X Factor. They just have no imagination to think of anything to replace these long lasting staples of the schedules.

If you have a BB based response I'll gladly read it, if all I'm going to get is more personal comments about myself and other forum members then don't even bother please.

And, yes, I gave up on BB two years ago and continue to visit a site I first joined in 2008 chatting to a few members I've come to know and like. But, hey, that's probably negative too.

Your analogy doesn't work.

If people were tuning into the show and complaining all the way through it or going to see the live shows whilst claiming to hate it then you'd have a point.

As it is, they're contributing an opinion to a discussion thread on a message board just the same as you. They don't need to be told to move on anyway just because they don't share your viewpoint on an 18 year old programme.

An analogy doesnt have to correspond to your exact narrow qualifications for it to be viable, just because you offered a different, more direct analogy that would work also is irrelevant. I believe you understood my point. Its also hypocritical of you to say that anyone can say what they want on a public message board and then state that someone doesnt "need to be told" something, as I can easily say the same thing, I dont need to be told anything by you either. No one needs to follow my advice nor are they likely to, but I can express my incredulity towards their behavior. I firmly believe this forum is overun by a vocal minority of negative haters and thats why its the same old people that have been on it forever with fewer new users. They are turned off as am I by the constant complaining and lack of hope or optimism, and the subsequent defense of it by others like yourself against those who challenge it. I have always loved Big Brother and though it has had its ups and downs I love BB now just as much as ever, and stand with the many who feel the same and are discouraged from contributing by the generally negative tone of this board.

I said anyone can offer their opinion to a discussion thread.

What they can't do is start to get personal with forum members because they don't enjoy the show as much as them anymore.

I don't care to read the rest of that diatribe. Attacking "the board" is only adding to the negativity.