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TomC 31-01-2019 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Riley. (Post 10425245)
Yeah, but, Queer is a cultural term, and that's a fact! There is queer music, queer literature, queer art, even, y'know, queer porn!

This! I’m reading Queer Theory atm!
It doesn’t really matter it’s still used as a slur...
As far as I’m concerned ‘queer’ is pretty much synonymous with LGBT

Ant. 31-01-2019 01:52 PM

I know him as "that gay singer" and know none of his songs so really he should be thankful he's a twink!

Oliver_W 31-01-2019 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TomC (Post 10425286)
This! I’m reading Queer Theory atm!
It doesn’t really matter it’s still used as a slur...
As far as I’m concerned ‘queer’ is pretty much synonymous with LGBT

Is Queer Theory as cringey as it sounds?

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Originally Posted by Riley. (Post 10425245)
Yeah, but, Queer is a cultural term, and that's a fact! There is queer music, queer literature, queer art, even, y'know, queer porn!

gay music*
gay literature*
gay art*
gay porn*

TomC 31-01-2019 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10425335)
Is Queer Theory as cringey as it sounds?


gay music*
gay literature*
gay art*
gay porn*

It’s the queer equivalent of feminist theory :umm2:

You’re very out of touch with your community if you don’t understand the word ‘queer’.

Glenn. 31-01-2019 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10425034)
What I don't get is why gay people demand equality yet always bring up the gay card if anything isn't going their way...this cretin is the worst I've seen today, so far.

‘don’t get why gay people demand equality’

Stopped reading after this

montblanc 31-01-2019 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 10425589)
‘don’t get why gay people demand equality’

Stopped reading after this

it’s the same bull**** as ‘well if women want equality then they should...’ like as if equality is something that has to be earned rather than already given. it’s a stupid argument

Glenn. 31-01-2019 04:47 PM

Preach it

Oliver_W 31-01-2019 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Riley. (Post 10425243)
This! Also has he never heard of Elton John or Freddie Mercury? Bitch please! And why do we need a gay Taylor Swift? Oh because he wants to be earning hundreds of millions instead of just a few millions.

Wow, just imagine how big they'd have gotten if the public thought they went to the fishmongers instead of the cheese market. They'd be internationally and intergenerationally loved and admired or something.
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Originally Posted by TomC (Post 10425587)

You’re very out of touch with your community if you don’t understand the word ‘queer’.

I'm okay with that, does the "gay community" even have a need anymore? Gays aren't a downtrodden underclass anymore lol. I feel more community with that tattooed weirdo I see on rock music night at the pub, than I do most of the gays from my local gaybar.

montblanc 31-01-2019 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10425620)
Gays aren't a downtrodden underclass anymore lol.

yes they are :skull: come on now

montblanc 31-01-2019 04:59 PM

discrimination comes in many forms

brat. 31-01-2019 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10425620)
Gays aren't a downtrodden underclass anymore lol.

... did you not see what happened to jussie the other day

Smithy 31-01-2019 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10425620)

I'm okay with that, does the "gay community" even have a need anymore? Gays aren't a downtrodden underclass anymore lol. I feel more community with that tattooed weirdo I see on rock music night at the pub, than I do most of the gays from my local gaybar.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/8208...temid=11193118

Withano 31-01-2019 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Braden (Post 10424613)
Literally know none of his songs, but know he's gay.

And thats why you refuse to listen to them? He was right!

Withano 31-01-2019 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TomC (Post 10425587)
It’s the queer equivalent of feminist theory :umm2:

You’re very out of touch with your community if you don’t understand the word ‘queer’.

Was thinking the same thing but couldn’t be bothered to say it haha

Withano 31-01-2019 05:09 PM

To be honest, in his specific instance, i dont think he’d be half as famous if he was straight. His fanbase came from YouTube and most of them probs would’ve cared less about a young effeminate straight kid.

Oliver_W 31-01-2019 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10425625)

hahaha, I don't think I'm particularly unique or "one of the good ones", everyone is different - I'm different to you, you're different to Ant, etc. I was just illustrating how I see the "gay community" as a little redundant.

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Originally Posted by brat. (Post 10425624)
... did you not see what happened to jussie the other day

The allegations made by Jesse describe a terrible event, and I hope those behind it get what's coming to them. But to say that's representative of the West as a whole is as silly as someone who says "The mozlum's r taken over" when they walk past a halal shop.

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Originally Posted by montblanc (Post 10425621)
yes they are :skull: come on now

I've not seen that in day to day life, nor has anyone in my family or friends.

TomC 31-01-2019 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10425625)

Lol a drag queen is the perfect way to respond

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10425620)

I'm okay with that, does the "gay community" even have a need anymore? Gays aren't a downtrodden underclass anymore lol. I feel more community with that tattooed weirdo I see on rock music night at the pub, than I do most of the gays from my local gaybar.

To say we aren’t a ‘downtrodden underclass’ is an extremely crude over-simplification. I have no idea what your experiences have been, but to say that there’s no need for a pro-LGBT movement is highly ignorant. And anyway, even if we did achieve equality, that doesn’t mean the community needn’t exist.

If you don’t want to identify with the community, fine, but don’t drag them down.

brat. 31-01-2019 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10425693)
I've not seen that in day to day life, nor has anyone in my family or friends.

just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen ??

TomC 31-01-2019 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by brat. (Post 10425697)
just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen ??

This. Terrible mentality.

Braden 31-01-2019 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 10425630)
And thats why you refuse to listen to them? He was right!

Oh, honey, I wouldn't even know Troye Sivan existed if it weren't for all the media outlets I follow on social media discussing his sexuality :p

Niamh. 31-01-2019 09:51 PM

Never heard of him

Twosugars 31-01-2019 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by montblanc (Post 10425621)
yes they are :skull: come on now

Oliver is on the right, Monteh
things are always right if you're on the right ;)
it's easier: if you don't acknowledge there's problem you don't have to deal with it

Oliver_W 31-01-2019 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10426090)
Oliver is on the right, Monteh
things are always right if you're on the right ;)
it's easier: if you don't acknowledge there's problem you don't have to deal with it

Why bring up the fact I'm on the right? That has nothing to do with anything, least of all gayness; even (most!) right wing politics are either indifferent or supportive toward homos.


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