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user104658 06-02-2019 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10432980)
Thatcher was one of the best prime ministers ever, and a woman, hence why she got a state funeral. Not everyone agreed with her for sure, but she single handedly brought this country back from general strikes. Yes, she went too far, thats always the way in these things, but no-one has deserved a statue more than her in my life time.

She didn't "bring the country back", she ushered in the neoliberal Tory capitalism that is still autocannibalising us to this day. It just isn't finished yet.

joeysteele 06-02-2019 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10432925)
It should go up in London,she was the first woman PM and did a lot of good aswell as stuff some don't agree with,but every statue ever erected will have someone who was never perfect, people need to stop being so faux upset about everything,it wont ruin anyones life if her statue is there,she deserves it as much as anyone, and if the immature in society want to vandalise it that says so much more about them,Maggie was trail blazer and she should be remembered as such, as Livia said she had bigger balls than any man that's been in power.

Here's a near first on political matters recently.

I actually agree with every word of your post above.

Marsh. 06-02-2019 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10432925)
but every statue ever erected will have someone who was never perfect

Who asked for perfection?

Kazanne 06-02-2019 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 10433664)
Here's a near first on political matters recently.

I actually agree with every word of your post above.

Is it a first Joey :wavey:

Livia 07-02-2019 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RileyH (Post 10433105)
Is she the milk lady



Yes... in the 1970s. Strange that of all the things she's responsible for, good and bad, people still bring up the milk thing.

Cherie 07-02-2019 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10434509)
Yes... in the 1970s. Strange that of all the things she's responsible for, good and bad, people still bring up the milk thing.

I know, those poor kids were probably delighted, who liked to drink milk as a child ...not me

Livia 07-02-2019 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10434510)
I know, those poor kids were probably delighted, who liked to drink milk as a child ...not me

Nor me. I still don't like it much. Can't imagine having to drink luke-warm milk on a hot day.

Alf 07-02-2019 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10434510)
I know, those poor kids were probably delighted, who liked to drink milk as a child ...not me

One of the best times of the day was Milk time, usually with a dry biscuit.

Niamh. 07-02-2019 10:19 AM

I hate milk but when I was in primary school alot of the kids got those little glass bottles at lunchtime delivered and it seemed to be the best thing ever for them. I always wished I liked milk it looks really nice

Livia 07-02-2019 10:20 AM

I never understood the milk thing. I mean, it was introduced in the early forties when food was rationed and poor families were struggling. By the time milk was removed around 1970, we were doing rather better.

Alf 07-02-2019 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10434573)
I never understood the milk thing. I mean, it was introduced in the early forties when food was rationed and poor families were struggling. By the time milk was removed around 1970, we were doing rather better.

If I didn't drink my milk, I'd have only been good enough to play for Accrington Stanley.

Livia 07-02-2019 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10434579)
If I didn't drink my milk, I'd have only been good enough to play for Accrington Stanley.

Accrington Stanley...? Who are they?

:-)

Cherie 07-02-2019 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10434564)
One of the best times of the day was Milk time, usually with a dry biscuit.

Well I went to a rural Irish school, we brought our own milk or in my case Cocoa in the cold weather in a flask if my Mom ran out of cocoa she sent us with hot milk, and never told us as she knew we would moan, I can still see the shock on my brothers face when he was pouring it out :laugh:

Beso 07-02-2019 11:06 AM

Well she defo deserves a statue...does it matter where it goes though? Unless it is being moved due to threats that is....then that matters...a lot.

joeysteele 07-02-2019 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10433783)
Is it a first Joey :wavey:

You and I would have some ding dongs on politics Kazanne.:joker:
However that's what makes politics interesting to debate.

You're an adorable member and we agree on much more important topics.

I rated Margaret Thatcher for her strength .she looked the statesperson all through.
She never took a sledgehammer to the most vulnerable sick and disabled.
She came to power when the UK was near ungovernable.
The Unions far too extreme, even against Labour their own Party in government.

No government or PM does all right or wrong.
What she did was make the UK look strong and she always fought determinedly the UKs corner.

She made bad decisions too of course but she must go down as one of the most formidable leaders ever, a strong PM and her debating skills were second to none.

bots 07-02-2019 01:10 PM

we shouldn't underestimate Thatchers role in bringing down the USSR and re-uniting Germany either. She forced Reagan into the dialogue he had with the Russians. That in itself deserves a statue.

Twosugars 07-02-2019 02:34 PM

Not in re-uniting Germany, Bots. She was very much opposed to that and did everything to stop it.

Kazanne 07-02-2019 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 10434662)
You and I would have some ding dongs on politics Kazanne.:joker:
However that's what makes politics interesting to debate.

You're an adorable member and we agree on much more important topics.

I rated Margaret Thatcher for her strength .she looked the statesperson all through.
She never took a sledgehammer to the most vulnerable sick and disabled.
She came to power when the UK was near ungovernable.
The Unions far too extreme, even against Labour their own Party in government.

No government or PM does all right or wrong.
What she did was make the UK look strong and she always fought determinedly the UKs corner.

She made bad decisions too of course but she must go down as one of the most formidable leaders ever, a strong PM and her debating skills were second to none.


I like that kind of friendship Joey where we can have totally opposite opinions but still know we are friends even though it gets heated sometimes :laugh:and I agree whatever you thought of Thatcher she was a one off and very strong PM.:wavey:

Northern Monkey 07-02-2019 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10434608)
Accrington Stanley...? Who are they?

:-)

Egzakly!

Beso 07-02-2019 04:18 PM

She bloody deserves a national anthem, never mind a statue.

Twosugars 07-02-2019 05:30 PM

divisive old bat, no statues, too early, let history deal with her and then we'll see

Livia 08-02-2019 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10434815)
Not in re-uniting Germany, Bots. She was very much opposed to that and did everything to stop it.

She was worried about a united Germany because like many of her generation, she could never trust the Germans, and that's understandable. But she even Gorbachev says she was instrumental as a world leader in support for Glasnost.

Livia 08-02-2019 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10435124)
divisive old bat, no statues, too early, let history deal with her and then we'll see

Hmmm... not sure we should let her haters decide, 2shugs.

No half-naked man today... slightly disappointed

Twosugars 08-02-2019 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10436440)
She was worried about a united Germany because like many of her generation, she could never trust the Germans, and that's understandable. But she even Gorbachev says she was instrumental as a world leader in support for Glasnost.

wasn't judging her, simply correcting Bots; and she was wrong, Germany is a great stabilizing force in Europe
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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10436442)
Hmmm... not sure we should let her haters decide, 2shugs.

No half-naked man today... slightly disappointed

seems to be a sensible way to deal with divisive figures; I bet Cromwell didn't get his statue(s) in the living memory of him either

toying with an idea of a dedicated thread for my avatars :think:


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