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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10451343)

I was clear, I made a distinction between a convo like we're having and official government pronouncements.

Many Poles were also involved in the extermination of Poles. The way you make it sound is as if Poles were perpetrators and not the victims too. Those Jews were also Polish. Those gays, Romanies, Jehova Witnesses, Masons and the disabled were Polish too, as were millions of Catholic Poles.

Edit: Actually who need Germans in the picture? It was all Poles, don't you know

Of course not all Poles were collaborators. I've already made that distinction a few posts back 2S...

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10451322)

:nono: are you saying that a left wing Israeli government doesn't protect its land? Right wing does not have a monopoly on patriotism and defence :fist:

Lol, you're intelligent too Arista, but very stubborn :)

Sure a Left Wing Power
in Israel would also protect their land.

No stubborn
just so busy at work.

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10451347)

it's not honouring their memory by pretending it was all bad

I never said it was all bad. The only person who's said that is you.

Poland always had an anti-Semitism problem, they still do. But shhh....

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10451367)

I never said it was all bad. The only person who's said that is you.

Poland always had an anti-Semitism problem, they still do. But shhh....

No need to shhh, I talked about it in my first post in response to Nicky.
It is there all right. As is here and in any country in Europe.
As you may know I have Jewish, Polish and English ancestry and believe me, the topic is very close to my heart for personal reasons.
But things are getting better despite of all this baggage. Jewish life in contemporary Poland is thriving despite of what some would have you believe.
I'm optimistic as to the future.

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10451372)

The 10,000 or so Jews in Poland today are still suffering anti-Semitism. Is it getting better? Yes, I believe it is, you're right. In Poland... in the UK attacks on Jews are at a record high. My background is also Jewish, Polish, English... and German. We're such complicated, cosmopolitan people, you and I...

I think that the reason that Netanyahu made the comment in the first place probably followed Poland passing its Holocaust law, on the eve of Holocaust Memorial Day this year, making it a criminal offence carrying a prison term of three years, for anyone to say Poland was at all complicit in the Holocaust. A sh1t-storm followed, and I think it's now a civil offence rather than a criminal one... but still. Jewish groups said they'll carry on as normal until the first brick comes through the window.