I think we should be more worried about the dramatic and undeniable rise of Anti-Semitism in our own Labour Party

Not may people are bothered by that, though. It's not fashionable, left of centre. Nor right of centre, thinking about it...

And you're perfectly entitled to be wrong and uninformed.

Because we can only focus on one issue at a time?

or right

as usual

Nope, just uninformed.

You do not know more than security experts from across the world who acknowledge right wing terrorism as a real and present threat. You're entitled to believe it doesn't exist but that doesn't make your opinion correct, it makes it uninformed.

not "security experts" :shocked:

I get the Antifa point. I don't personally agree with them on everything, especially their direct action, but they were set up as a direct response to the rise in fascism and white supremacy, and to counteract it.

Let me put it like this, if the worrying rise on the right wasn't happening, would Antifa even be in our consciousness? I think it's easy to forget that Antifa rose to prominence again, recently in the US where KKK and white nationalist rallies are constant and deadly. I agree though, there are probably folks within the movement itching far an even more direct response.


Maybe you'll be right about the far left rising, but all the prominent folks that are currently made out to be communists by the right, are only really interested in providing healthcare, education, work opportunities, and an end to social inequality. It's not impossible, because obviously the original aims of Bolshevism were noble too, before being bastardised, but it's a difficult road that travels from Alexandria Ocassio-Cortez (the current right wing boogeywoman) to far left extremism in the same way that it's a pretty short road from right wing politicians to far right extremism.

Another problem I have with the labelling of far left in the UK, is that we haven't even had a left wing party in this country since the inception of "new labour", so having a far left rise without even a left is a difficult thing to envisage.

I don't want to take the thread in a different direction that becomes about other members, and me making accusations, as that will only achieve deleted posts, infractions/warnings, or a closed thread - none of those things I want to happen, but let me just say that if people label themselves with the labels of the far right, then I'll take them at their word.

What are the numbers then to get back on topic?

yearly deaths etc?

to give us an idea of scale

That's just another insinuation that there are people on here who are on the far Right. And I don't believe there are.

It's not an insinuation of anything; I explicitly said that when people use far right labels to label themselves, then I accept the labels they use. No insinuation necessary.

Those who support the BNP and Tommy Robinson are far right

Again... I don't know anyone who supports them. Not really, I don't believe anyone on here would vote for Robinson or the BNP who, incidentally, have only around 500 members in the whole country.

I’ve definitely seen

Hmmm...

Thank you Slim Reaper, a much needed thread.

Wonder what Breitbart makes of this troubling phenomenon.

People on here explicitely identify themselves as far right?

Get rid of all right wing people and then there’d be no issue

Some defend every action Trump takes, defend Robinson, praise alt right people like Milo, Bannon etc. That's pretty far right, right?

If you check out my deleted posts (not sure if you guys can actually do that), you'll prob find some evidence

No one on here is on the far Right. There are some people on here way over to the Left, but not any far Left, I would say. Any kind of an extremist is a threat and I worry that people are happy to hang labels on other people on the basis of some stuff they may have seen on a Big Brother forum.

as usual the baiters and the haters are here with the usual insinuation but no one has the balls to name a name in case they get a wee infraction

what a surprise, lol

and none with an opinion or comment about the actual thread, just here to cause trouble

:bored:

Regardless, it is about time we debate right wing terrorism alongside all others, I'm sure you'll agree. This thread is much needed.